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Old 02-03-2010   #231
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once it was decided not to sell these cars, it certainly did give us the largest group of project cars imaginable. having them did help to make sure the 90s were as good as they could be.
I always thought that must have been true. The golden age of the C4. Thanks for that info. I remember seeing your Snake SKinner at the NCRS Spring Fiesta here in Scottsdale back in 1993. Up until last year it was the only 89 ZR-1 I had ever seen in person. It was, and is amazing. Eric
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Old 02-03-2010   #232
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Vehicles with a VIN usually meant a pilot or production vehicle. The EX number, if applied by the plant meant that it was some kind of prototype. Experimental! These vehicles had to be paid for out of budget immediately and would be used for some kind of testing and presumably would never be sold, but would be scrapped out.
Some VIN vehicles were turned into EX vehicles when enough experimental parts were installed to where the vehicle would become experimental. Discpline on this was not that great though

It appears SSII had it's EX tag added later and the number is much higher then the 90 Active sold at BJ 2009:

Note standard POP rivets I bet the windshield date code is at least 2 years newer then the car.


Compared to 1990 Active:




Note rosette rivets (and windshield delam!)
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Old 02-03-2010   #233
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Vehicles with a VIN usually meant a pilot or production vehicle. The EX number, if applied by the plant meant that it was some kind of prototype. Experimental! These vehicles had to be paid for out of budget immediately and would be used for some kind of testing and presumably would never be sold, but would be scrapped out.
Some VIN vehicles were turned into EX vehicles when enough experimental parts were installed to where the vehicle would become experimental. Discpline on this was not that great though

So current EX cars have a VIN that almost looks like a normal VIN except for EX in the middle?
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Old 02-03-2010   #234
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Wouldn't the EX plate be seperate "if" the car started life as a production model, such as the early Corvettes with Engineering or Styling EX numbers? Was that the same OP during the C4 era or would a "Rev number" follow the car once ISO became the norm?

I worked in the GM system with Delphi, Magnequench and Guide Divisions for several years during the 90's and 00's. Once ISO became a way of life, Rev #'s followed any deviation from the norm.

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What happened to the Yellow '89 that was to be raffled by the NCM? At some stage "they" claimed an issue because of the "X" digit in the VIN....

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What happened to the Yellow '89 that was to be raffled by the NCM? At some stage "they" claimed an issue because of the "X" digit in the VIN....

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If they failed to raffle off the Geneva Show car because it has an X in it's VIN it was saved for all Corvettekind because of a common mistake.

The VIN of #016 is:

1G1YZ21JXK5800016

The X has nothing to do with it being experimental. It is it's "Check Digit". When the Check digit = 10 'X' is used. No mystery. On average 10% of all production cars have an X. I see people selling corvettes on Ebay claiming the have a prototype only to find out their check digit = 10.

Thats almost funny.

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I think i have it wrong the Check digit for #016 should be 0 so this should be it:

1G1YZ21J0K5800016
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This Yellow one?




Pictures are from Early August 2009 at the NCM
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If they failed to raffle off the Geneva Show car because it has an X in it's VIN it was saved for all Corvettekind because of a common mistake.

The VIN of #016 is:

1G1YZ21JXK5800016

The X has nothing to do with it being experimental. It is it's "Check Digit". When the Check digit = 0 or 10 'X' is used. No mystery. On average 10% of all production cars have an X. I see people selling corvettes on Ebay claiming the have a prototype only to find out their check digit = 10.

Thats almost funny.

Eric
Yeah, we knew it was a crock at the time, but things used to be a lot more political.

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So current EX cars have a VIN that almost looks like a normal VIN except for EX in the middle?
Its actually at the end. I saw a couple of the early Z06s and it was a production looking vin with EX at the end.

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What happened to the Yellow '89 that was to be raffled by the NCM? At some stage "they" claimed an issue because of the "X" digit in the VIN....

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Probably did not have an MSO for the car and selling on a salvage title was not done by GM at the time.

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