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Old 12-03-2009   #1
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Default What is the largest CI that LT5 can be built to with stock crank?

This question is not for me, but one of the ZR-1 guys in Japan. He needs to rebuild his motor and want to build the biggest LT5 possible, but purchasing a new crank is not feasible with cost and shipping. Does anyone know what combination of liners/pistons/rods can be used and what size it will end up?

Sorry if this information is already available and posted. I could not find it if so.

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Old 12-03-2009   #2
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Is he willing to do an offset grind on the crank or keep it totally stock? I believe Pete is the person to answer this question.
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Old 12-03-2009   #3
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Default Re: What is the largest CI that LT5 can be built to with stock crank?

yeah pete can give you all the info ,but i believe its 401ci, offset grinding the crank and using 4.125 piston and liners
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Old 12-04-2009   #4
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Default Re: What is the largest CI that LT5 can be built to with stock crank?

Guys i'm no engine builder/expert.

I would say stock crank offset to 3.75 with 4.125 bore makes 401.
i know this will work very well.

I also know stock crank can be offset to 3.85 but i don't know much about 1.900 rods,this will make a 411ci.

I hear different stories on the 1.900 rods they work fine in a 9k RPM Honda some say LT5 parts are heavier so it won't work.
Flyan Ryan might have more input on the 1.900 rods durability.

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My choice is 401 should get around 500rwhp w/stock cams cost is about a 1/3 of a 415ci. for the do it yourselfer.
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Thanks guys!!!

I found this on EES: Using your stock crankshaft:
4.100 bore, 3.75 stroke = 396cid
4.125 bore, 3.75 stroke = 401cid

So if this is it I'll pass on to the guy.

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Is he willing to do an offset grind on the crank or keep it totally stock? I believe Pete is the person to answer this question.
I'll ask him. I imagine he will want keep it stock. Thanks!
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The max I would take off the crank is .100 this gives you 2.00 rod journal and stroke of 3.75 I know some people have cut other stock cranks farther, but a LT-5 hollow crank??? I would not like to find out the hard way.
If shipping is a problem, getting the block here and back wont work for the 4.100/125. Unless AES or EES is selling the liners now? Last I heard they only do short block assembled. So your looking at sending 4" liners over sea's.

3.75x4.00 = 377ci

Go with Ron Woods HD liners punch it .060 over = 388ci.
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The max I would take off the crank is .100 this gives you 2.00 rod journal and stroke of 3.75 I know some people have cut other stock cranks farther, but a LT-5 hollow crank??? I would not like to find out the hard way.
If shipping is a problem, getting the block here and back wont work for the 4.100/125. Unless AES or EES is selling the liners now? Last I heard they only do short block assembled. So your looking at sending 4" liners over sea's.

3.75x4.00 = 377ci

Go with Ron Woods HD liners punch it .060 over = 388ci.
Okay, thanks for the info and I'll pass it on. He has been in communication with one of the builders already and they were going to send him a package for $15K to build in Japan. Sounds a little risky but I'm not sure what kind of shops he has access to there. Thanks again.
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Hey guys. Well here's what a person has to deal with. As stated by diaper boy Kevin, 2.0" is standard 'Small Journal' Small Block Chev., is a good size, bearings available no problem. Next is 'Large Honda' size, 1.889", then is 'Small Honda' size, 1.85", then is I.R.L. or Mitsubishi size, 1.779". I'm having a crank done right now by Dave at Mile High Crank in Denver & before anything can happen we have to make sure it won't be too thin where the rod journal lightening hole is. The other thing a person has to watch is the oil hole, the more it gets off-set, the oil hole will want to 'Walk Over' to the crank radius, too much & it'll bleed off pressure at the bearing edge, obviously. So can a factory LT-5 crank go to the I.R.L. size of 1.779" for an approx. stroke of 3.98"? I'm not sure...never taken one that far.....yet . For the record I have used that I.R.L. size in a 900 HP+ engine & when torn down, the bearing look near perfect. Also, when off-setting that much, must make sure to Re-Nitride.
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Hey guys. Well here's what a person has to deal with. As stated by diaper boy Kevin, 2.0" is standard 'Small Journal' Small Block Chev., is a good size, bearings available no problem. Next is 'Large Honda' size, 1.889", then is 'Small Honda' size, 1.85", then is I.R.L. or Mitsubishi size, 1.779". I'm having a crank done right now by Dave at Mile High Crank in Denver & before anything can happen we have to make sure it won't be too thin where the rod journal lightening hole is. The other thing a person has to watch is the oil hole, the more it gets off-set, the oil hole will want to 'Walk Over' to the crank radius, too much & it'll bleed off pressure at the bearing edge, obviously. So can a factory LT-5 crank go to the I.R.L. size of 1.779" for an approx. stroke of 3.98"? I'm not sure...never taken one that far.....yet . For the record I have used that I.R.L. size in a 900 HP+ engine & when torn down, the bearing look near perfect. Also, when off-setting that much, must make sure to Re-Nitride.
Thanks for taking time to share the info Ryan!!!!
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