Engine Fire??

[GOLDCYLON]

Originally Posted by TX '90 ZR1

Saw this over on CF. Anyone know what happened or if it was a members car?
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I’m not gonna lie that would make me cry. And then I would buy another one!!!!

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[Vette Guy]

Originally Posted by rush91

And no telling how much water \ foaming agent was doused on there to put it out.

Having had an engine fire (LT1 when the forged crank broke), as well as Brett (L98 when a fuel line O-ring failed), you’ll find that the hardest part is treating all the corrosion from the extinguishant, vs. replacing damaged parts. Nasty stuff, and it gets everywhere. Inside the car as well as all over the drivetrain. Despite quickly being able to pressure wash everything, I still had massive corrosion which resulted in taking my car down to the chassis- Everything had to come out/come off. Clutch looked like it was 30 years old. Rust on everything. Lots of cleaning, sanding, priming, painting.... most every nut, bold, and fitting replaced. Until you really pressure wash out the engine bay, I’d be even be weary of putting it in my garage - again, incredibly nasty stuff.


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[secondchance]

Hey Mark!

Hope you are making the most out of this crazy time.
I keep a Halguard extinguisher and Halguard claims clean agent. Is this the same kind of agent as you had experienced?

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[Vette Guy]

I did not have a Halguard, but the car was equipped with a Lifeline FIA certified 4 liter, 8 nozzle aqueous film forming foam system, and I carry an additional 4lb class B/C extinguisher. When I egressed the car, I didn’t know the extent of the fire and was reluctant to pull the AFFF as it would spray not only the engine, but fill the interior as well. I grabbed the hand-held and went to address the fire, knowing I can grab the second activation pull located outside the car if needed... (it’s also $500 if I pull it). I quickly extinguished the engine fire, but couldn’t get the fire out in the tunnel, which continued to flare up. The AFFF system would not have reached it either. I went through my 4lb handheld, as well as a larger extinguisher provided by a course worker to keep it at bay until the fire trucks arrived. Brett’s fire was before this, and he warned me.... but it was worst than I’d ever imagined it could be. The DEI heat shield did a great job of preventing the fiberglass from catching fire, but the rubber bellows of the ZF-6 kept the fire going until the fire trucks finished it off. They went through quite a few bottles before the big hose was finally used.
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Video of the event:
https://youtu.be/gw60JxU-zYQ

So, now I carry an Element fire extinguisher, which is about the size of a flair, and does not make a mess.

Video of Element on Jay Leno’s Garage:
https://youtu.be/oBjXecsF860


Please note, it took me way too much time to realize there was fire vs. coolant, etc., and I’ve since taken the time to practice much quicker egress!


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[secondchance]

Originally Posted by Vette Guy

I did not have a Halguard, but the car was equipped with a Lifeline FIA certified 4 liter, 8 nozzle aqueous film forming foam system, and I carry an additional 5lb class B/C extinguisher. When I egressed the car, I didn’t know the extent of the fire and was reluctant to pull the AFFF as it would spray not only the engine, but fill the interior as well. I grabbed the hand-held and went to address the fire, knowing I can grab the second activation pull located outside the car if needed... (it’s also $500 if I pull it). I quickly extinguished the engine fire, but couldn’t get the fire out in the tunnel, which continued to flare up. The AFFF system would not have reached it either. I went through my 5lb handheld, as well as a larger extinguisher provided by a course worker to keep it at bay until the fire trucks arrived. Brett’s fire was before this, and he warned me.... but it was worst than I’d ever imagined it could be. The DEI heat shield did a great job of preventing the fiberglass from catching fire, but the rubber bellows of the ZF-6 kept the fire going until the fire trucks finished it off. They went through quite a few bottles before the big hose was finally used.Attachment 11892Attachment 11893

Video of the event:
https://youtu.be/gw60JxU-zYQ

So, now I carry an Element fire extinguisher, which is about the size of a flair, and does not make a mess.

Video of Element on Jay Leno’s Garage:
https://youtu.be/oBjXecsF860


Please note, it took me way too much time to realize there was fire vs. coolant, etc., and I’ve since taken the time to practice much quicker egress!


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Sorry about the mishap.
Now that my Z is 26 years old, I started carrying a bottle of extinguisher just in case. But, not sure if 2.5 lbs bottle can do the job.

[owwdee]

Originally Posted by Vette Guy

Having had an engine fire (LT1 when the forged crank broke), as well as Brett (L98 when a fuel line O-ring failed), you’ll find that the hardest part is treating all the corrosion from the extinguishant, vs. replacing damaged parts. Nasty stuff, and it gets everywhere. Inside the car as well as all over the drivetrain. Despite quickly being able to pressure wash everything, I still had massive corrosion which resulted in taking my car down to the chassis- Everything had to come out/come off. Clutch looked like it was 30 years old. Rust on everything. Lots of cleaning, sanding, priming, painting.... most every nut, bold, and fitting replaced. Until you really pressure wash out the engine bay, I’d be even be weary of putting it in my garage - again, incredibly nasty stuff.





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Interesting and good information. I am not seeing any sign of foam or extinguishant just yet. Makes me wonder what the fire was put out with.

[Vette Guy]

If you don't already see corrosion, you're probably in good shape! Whew!

[dredgeguy]

That Element fire extinguisher is very interesting and will fit right into the center console. Appreciate the heads up on this product.

[owwdee]

There’s your problem right there. Air duct is collapsing at WOT. Haha
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