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Old 06-10-2019   #21
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The C6Z06 is larger ie 6 piston caliper and the rotor is 14” not 13” like the C5(actually 12.8”) The C6 caliper is similar to the C5, but the C6Z06 caliper is different from the base C6 caliper, unlike the C5 generation. My comment pertained to the Z06 not the base.

Yes, the brakes are certainly different, and are different sizes. But the mounting points on the car where the brakes mount to are in exactly the same position regardless of the brake package.
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Yes, the brakes are certainly different, and are different sizes. But the mounting points on the car where the brakes mount to are in exactly the same position regardless of the brake package.
But the Z06 caliper is a larger caliper and the mounting holes for the caliper on the adapter are different.
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Old 06-10-2019   #23
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Since I don't know specifically which adapter you are referring to, I can't comment on that.

However, my point is that there is no need for there to be a different adapter for different packages if designed appropriately. The mounting dimensions on the car are all the same, whether it is a base C6, a Z51, Grand Sport, Z06, or a ZR1. Or any C5 for that matter.

The holes are 14mm, spaced 128mm apart, with an offset of 86mm from the center, with the caliper mounting plane 63.4mm from the face of the hub.
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The holes are 14mm, spaced 128mm apart, with an offset of 86mm from the center, with the caliper mounting plane 63.4mm from the face of the hub.
Do you know how this changed on the C7?
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Since I don't know specifically which adapter you are referring to, I can't comment on that.

However, my point is that there is no need for there to be a different adapter for different packages if designed appropriately. The mounting dimensions on the car are all the same, whether it is a base C6, a Z51, Grand Sport, Z06, or a ZR1. Or any C5 for that matter.

The holes are 14mm, spaced 128mm apart, with an offset of 86mm from the center, with the caliper mounting plane 63.4mm from the face of the hub.
I bought the adapters for my Z06 front brakes from here. Read what they say in the comments regarding using the base or Z51 adapter for the Z06 brakes.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/88-to-96-C4....c100667.m2042
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I bought the adapters for my Z06 front brakes from here. Read what they say in the comments regarding using the base or Z51 adapter for the Z06 brakes.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/88-to-96-C4....c100667.m2042
Again...that is for that particular adapter. There is no reason why a single adapter design could not mount the Z06 brakes as well as all the others C5 and C6 options as well.
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Here’s a thread on CF dealing w Camaro Brembo upgrade for C4. I looked at this and the Cadillac Brembos as well.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...bos-on-c4.html
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Do you know how this changed on the C7?
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Yes, I have those dimensions as well, some of which I posted earlier.
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Yes, I have those dimensions as well, some of which I posted earlier.
Yes I saw that, it suggests that there is now a commonality between the Camaro, Cadillac and now C7 geometry. I was curious if that holds true for all the dimensions.
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Yes I saw that, it suggests that there is now a commonality between the Camaro, Cadillac and now C7 geometry. I was curious if that holds true for all the dimensions.
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No, not all. The calipers cost a lot of money for the tooling so they use them across different platforms in order to increase the volumes and reduce the per-piece cost. Therefore, the hole spacing and the offset from centerline dimensions are the same for Camaro, (some) Cadillac, and C7, but there are other differences in the dimensions. Such as the hub face to caliper mount dimension, the hub bore, the wheel bolt pattern, etc. All of the discs for the C7 are unique to that platform. C7 is now the only GM product still using a 5x4.75" wheel bolt pattern and the 70.65mm centerbore dimension that is common all the way back through the C4.
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