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Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
Cool.
All I noticed was 23# holding pressure @ idle (static FP test is primed FP only, motor off).
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Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
That is on my list.. Along with auto down windows
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05-26-2014
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Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
Well my car still runs bad.
It worked fine for two trips. After changing the fuel pumps and strainers I assumed (yeah I know) all was good and did not check the fuel pressure. Car started right up and no cold start issues. Went downtown and ran a few errands, sat in traffic, and had no problem passing on the expressway. I let the car sit for a few hours and the symptoms came right back. Maybe they never went away. New fuel pumps, strainers, and filters. Here are 4 videos I made. * Ignition on, no start. * Ignition off after no start * Start up * Shut off http://feed1.tinypic.com/rss.php?ua=...0gbgs0BA%3D%3D I am lost. Only thing I can think off is the fuel pressure regulator or maybe the ECM due to this thread with the same similar start up issues. http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread....=fuel+pressure I see no leaks anywhere and all the lines are nice and tight. Thanks for the help.
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Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
MAP sensor hose? Pop off? Has oil?
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05-26-2014
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Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
Alright - maybe let's do static pressure test, and leakdown time.
Plug in FP guage, turn on key to prime rails. If it's not @ 43+ PSI, turn the key off and on again. If you don't get it then, GENTLY pinch the fuel return line, and prime the rails again (this will NOT yet rule out the FPR), but will tell a line leak, or leaking injector, or (not likely), a bad pump check valve. Post back on that... And cold starts and running like bats from Hades means NOTHING. (and do bats actually 'run'??? maybe they do, to V1, then roll flaps and go for V2?)
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05-26-2014
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Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
Where can I pinch the fuel return line?
Only place I can think of is the return line to the tank in the rear. Also I will check the map sensor.
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Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
Pinch at the P side line at the back of the motor on top at the passenger side. Follow the rail crossover to determine which is feed and which is return. The one coming from the FPR is return.
Some more snappics here. Start with a light pinch - you don't want to damage the line. edit: Front one is return line. Pinch THAT one. 
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Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
I am pretty sure I just found the problem and will have it fixed in the morning. Will report in the morning. Thanks again!
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Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
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