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Old 08-12-2012   #31
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You've got an Ignore list.
I wasn't suggesting this as a way to solve a problem specifically for me. That thread was up to 8 pages in like 4 days. I'd guess that there is more than just one person bothered by some of the comments some posters make. Maybe not, that's why I put it out there for discussion.

Do you think threads like that hurt the forum or the Registry, Kevin?
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1) What is List Server?

2) I know about the Zr1netregistry.com site and the associated Maintenance section....and I think there are sections over there (zr1netregistry.com) that only Paid Members can visit (you need a password).

3) I am also confused regarding the comingling of what are called General Members (those with IDs) and Paying Members (those with IDs as well as having paid annual Dues) with Passwords.



4) I am now even confused what PM stands for

5) I am also confused that threads can start in General Members (those with IDs) section and then those threads be moved to Paid Members (those with IDs and Paying Dues having Passwords) section just when I was getting interested in contributing (some call it debating).

6) Which makes that thread move to Paid Members section (those with Passwords) the same as thread CLOSURE for those General Members (those with IDs but not Paying Dues) who had an interest in the thread.

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Hi Cliff,

I numbered your questions to make it easier to respond.

1) The listserver is an email communication device that Mom helped set up years ago as a means for ZR-1 enthusiasts to ask questions and keep each other informed about various ZR-1 related issues/parts/etc.
It is completely separate from the club website, and forum. Some people love it and use it exclusively.
Others do not care for it because of the potential volume of emails that sometime occur. Some choose to participate in all three.

2) What I commonly refer to the website is the Zr1netregistry.com site. Most information is accessible to anyone, but there is a paid club members only section as well.

3) I think Jerry was able to answer your follow up post very well in his response to you.

4) Sometimes in this medium it is hard to gauge what a persons intent is because you cannot hear their tone/inflection, nor see facial expressions. In this case I know what you are referring to with tongue in cheek sarcasm. However don't be surprised if some think you are a little off kilter for asking.

5 & 6) Ideally it would make a moderators job much easier if threads were posted in the appropriate sections. In most cases they are, yet some are accidentally posted in the wrong section. So if poster X places a WTS ad in the Corvette Babes section, Bryan will certainly make us aware it needs to be moved(and rightly so).

In the case of the thread you are referring to, it was devolving in several areas, but the OP related directly to a paid club members concern. It was therefore moved after a period of time to the appropriate section. The trouble of course is that the members only section is one of the few areas non paid club members do not have access to. So I certainly see your frustration when this occasionally occurs. One solution of course would be to re-up your membership to have access.
That is not to say non members or former members cannot discuss their suggestions/constructive criticism. However if it relates directly to a paid club member issue, it will typically wind up there.

BTW - The member in question was placed in club member status to where he has access to that section, and the thread remains open there.
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Old 08-12-2012   #33
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I will be back to address more posts, but need to be away for a couple of hours.

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Different things have meaning to some such as post counts, reputation points, titles such as "King of the Vette Babes"(I wonder who that might be).

Proud to be a founding member, regular yearly member and regular forum contributor!
Almost forgot the best one A ZR-1 OWNER!!!
Bryan,

I suspect your regular contributions are a favorite among the forum. Your title is well deserved.

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Hi Cliff,

I numbered your questions to make it easier to respond. You and Paul are doing more highlighting, bolding, and numbering lately

4) Sometimes in this medium it is hard to gauge what a persons intent is because you cannot hear their tone/inflection, nor see facial expressions. In this case I know what you are referring to with tongue in cheek sarcasm. However don't be surprised if some think you are a little off kilter for asking.

Maybe that was just for you and the others could just get a laugh......hope you thought about it

In the case of the thread you are referring to, it was devolving in several areas, but the OP related directly to a paid club members concern. It was therefore moved after a period of time to the appropriate section. The trouble of course is that the members only section is one of the few areas non paid club members do not have access to. So I certainly see your frustration when this occasionally occurs. One solution of course would be to re-up your membership to have access. I guess I will pass for now as I think it would be too much frustration to get further involved with a certain explanation posted today or yesturday either in that thread or other area for Paid Members only. That explanation is corrupt in regard to the facts.

"It is impossible to have a rational discussion with an irrational person."

That statement requires one to suggest and treat the other as irrational which means end of dicussion when in fact it may have been a very rational question. My positon is simple.....I ask very rational questions and if the questions are not understood, just ask for further explanation. If the questions are uncomfortable to answer, attacking the messenger is not the best approach.....but suit yourselves.
I am on my way out to work on my 90' (L98). I was tooling along at 80 mph last night on Route 99 and in front of me was a large Dead Dog (or animal of that size) in center of my lane. I was trapped in my lane by other vehicles. I ran over said Dead Dog at 80 mph with a BIG thump....and now have blood and whatever else hanging from my headers, transmission, brackets, and front air duct....I think there is no serious structural damage just messy all the way underneath

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I ran over said Dead Dog at 80 mph with a BIG thumb....and now have blood and whatever else hanging from my headers, transmission, brackets, and front air duct....I think there is no serious structural damage just messy all the way underneath
Ok, I didn't need to finish my sandwich anyway.......
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Ok, I didn't need to finish my sandwich anyway.......
weight reduction, he did you a favor
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Ok, I didn't need to finish my sandwich anyway.......
I just checked.....I was watching gauges immediately after hitting Dead Animal the size of a large coon in the middle of the road to see if anything changed. My AC cooler has some .......Doggie stuff on it but all the fins are in fine shape. Front screen for air intake has some...some....you still eating?

Exhaust brackets have some...some....oh...well....you get the picture......anyway....apparently you can run over a Dead animal the size of a BIG Coon at 80 mph and survive with just a pressure washing.

I guess I owe you a Subway Sandwich.....sorry about that

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P.S. This is related to Topic Member's Only because Member's Only should see such graffic details while eating sandwiches

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I like scottfab's idea of identifying Registry Member & would suggest it be placed just as "administrator" is under Z Factor's name.

The "Join Date" could be modified to Forum Member since: 02/10. No need for a Registry Member date.

I think when lurkers or forum members see "Registry Member" it will spawn a question, what's that/ how do I get to join the Registry. There are many forum members who are of the mistaken belief that they are Registry members. it could be an asset for recruitment of new members.

Good discussion Scottfab & Z Factor!!

So you can post in this thread but can't post in the other thread regarding the lack of the newsletter for 2 years?

How many members there are in the registry for 2011 and 2012?

How many people are getting refunds for the newsletter pursuant to 501 C status?

What difference does it make if the input comes from a paying member or not. My input was the same whether I am paying $65 or not. I was one of the first Registry members over a decade ago, does anybody care or should they care? NO.

The input is based on the performance of the board and you don't have to be a member to see the lack of performance.

What would be an asset is to run the club the way an organization should be. I'd have no problem with dues that cost a few hundred dollars if there was VALUE. If the $$ was used and accounted for in the proper way.

Also why don't you discuss all the things that are being done behind the scenes. The financials of the club, the reporting, the ownership of the forum, and all the nitty gritty. Members deserve to know instead of keeping it hush hush.

Refunds are due.......

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So you can post in this thread but can't post in the other thread regarding the lack of the newsletter for 2 years?

How many members there are in the registry for 2011 and 2012?

How many people are getting refunds for the newsletter pursuant to 501 C status?

What difference does it make if the input comes from a paying member or not. My input was the same whether I am paying $65 or not. I was one of the first Registry members over a decade ago, does anybody care or should they care? NO.

The input is based on the performance of the board and you don't have to be a member to see the lack of performance.

What would be an asset is to run the club the way an organization should be. I'd have no problem with dues that cost a few hundred dollars if there was VALUE. If the $$ was used and accounted for in the proper way.

Also why don't you discuss all the things that are being done behind the scenes. The financials of the club, the reporting, the ownership of the forum, and all the nitty gritty. Members deserve to know instead of keeping it hush hush.

Refunds are due.......
Actually, if you were a member, you would be entitled to access the Registry Members Only forum and obtain that information, if you were interested enough to look it up. If you are not a member and would like to know the answers to your questions pertaining to the Registry, then I would recommend that you consider re-joining.
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