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[FU]

Originally Posted by vandornjim

I've got an idea. HOW ABOUT THIS GUY!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu8dR...eature=related

He makes too much sense and has a firm grip on the reality.

[vandornjim]

Originally Posted by FU2

He makes too much sense and has a firm grip on the reality.

You're right once again. What was I thinking....

[GOLDCYLON]

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...wn-at-airports


http://jaredcaldwell.xanga.com/videos/0b7ea826150

[gbrtng]

Originally Posted by vandornjim

I've got an idea. HOW ABOUT THIS GUY!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu8dR...eature=related

More here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_West_(politician)

A no nonsense kind of guy - so now you know the rest of the story ...

[scholtmj]

http://www.pjorourke.com/

I'd love to hear his State of the Union address. Love his books too.

[John Boothby]

From Wikipedia on EL AL:

As a target for many decades, El Al employs stringent security procedures, both on the ground and on board its aircraft. These effective, though sometimes controversial, procedures have won El Al a reputation for security.[36] In 2008, the airline was named by Global Traveler magazine as the world's most secure airline.[37]

[edit] Airport security measures
Passengers are asked to report three hours before departure. All El Al terminals around the world are closely monitored for security. There are plain-clothes agents and fully armed police or military personnel who patrol the premises for explosives, suspicious behavior, and other threats. Inside the terminal, passengers and their baggage are checked by a trained team. El Al security procedures require that all passengers be interviewed individually prior to boarding, allowing El Al staff to identify possible security threats. Passengers will be asked questions about where they are coming from, the reason for their trip, their job or occupation, and whether they have packed their bags themselves. The likelihood of potential terrorists remaining calm under such questioning is believed to be low (see microexpression).[38]

At the check-in counter, passengers' passports and tickets are closely examined. A ticket without a sticker from the security checkers will not be accepted. At passport control passengers' names are checked against information from the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), Scotland Yard, Shin Bet, and Interpol databases. Luggage is screened and sometimes hand searched. In addition, bags are put through a decompression chamber simulating pressures during flight that could trigger explosives.[39] El Al is the only airline in the world that passes all luggage through such a chamber.[40] Even at overseas airports, El Al security agents conduct all luggage searches personally, even if they are supervised by government or private security firms.[41]

[edit] Flight security measures

An El Al Boeing 777 landing at London Heathrow Airport. (2005)Undercover agents (sometimes referred to as sky marshals) carrying concealed firearms sit among the passengers on every international El Al flight.[42] All El Al pilots are former Israeli Air Force pilots.[43] The cockpits in all El Al aircraft have double doors to prevent entry by unauthorized persons. A code is required to access the doors, and the second door will only be opened after the first has closed and the person has been identified by the captain or first officer.[43] Furthermore, there are reinforced steel floors separating the passenger cabin from the baggage hold.[44]

Following an attempt to shoot down an Israeli airliner in 2002,[45] all aircraft in the fleet have been equipped with an infrared countermeasures system called Flight Guard, developed by Israeli Aerospace Industries to defend them against anti-aircraft missiles.[46][47][48][49] Although comparable systems such as CAMPS are now available for civilian aircraft, there is no information to date about any other airlines deploying such a system. Switzerland and other European countries have expressed concern that flares dropped by the Israeli system could cause fires in the vicinity of an airport.[50]

[edit] Security controversy and passenger profiling
Critics of El Al note that its security checks on passengers include racial profiling[51] and have argued that such profiling is unfair, irrational, and degrading to those subject to such screening. Supporters of El Al argue that there is nothing inherently racist about passenger profiling and that special scrutiny of Muslims may often be necessary for security purposes.[citation needed]

The airline was also criticized by the Hungarian courts for refusing to search luggage with the passenger present, acting against Hungarian domestic laws which stipulate that only authorized officials are able to undertake such searches.[51] A civil case was brought to the Supreme Court of Israel on 19 March 2008 alleging that El Al's practice of ethnic profiling singles out Arabs for tougher treatment.[52]

[FU]

Fuel for the fire : http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=6687

[vandornjim]

The TSA has once again modified it's screening procedures to now include children under 12. Really? I wonder what a child thinks when a stranger touches them where they have been taught no stranger should touch them....WHILE THEIR PARENTS STAND THERE AND WATCH.

SHAME ON THEM. TALK ABOUT SHEEP??? I'd be in jail....but Mr TSA Mohamed would be in the hospital.

Originally Posted by FU2

Fuel for the fire : http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=6687

"The TSA defends the procedures as necessary in light of last years "underwear bomber"

My, my. It only took the TSA a year to come up with this "procedure". He hid something in his clothes? STRIP SEARCH!! Some "procedure".

WHy didn't they simply ask him his purpose for a visit when he boarded NORTHWorst AIRLINES over in Amsterdamn? And maybe when his hands started shaking...ask him to sing Jingle Bells...

"and the recent issues involving printer cartridges being used in an attempt to blow up cargo planes."

Why of course! scanning our naked bodies and patting us down will for sure stop those printer cartidge bombs on a UPS plane.

Me thinks like this:
The airline industry has been in trouble since de-regulation. Their fare prices have skyrocketed, they all but ignore their frequent flyers, they charge frivolous fees for bags, food, just about everything, but they offer us the rewarding experiences of standing in long lines to check in, then getting the opportunity to reveal ourselves to security, be completely disarmed and dependent upon their "security", then sit on the tarmack for hours. Then we get to do it all over AGAIN.

Me thinks if airports don't kick TSA's *** out of their faciities and start using common sense, the airlines are history.

Buy a webcam...and a Toyota.

[scholtmj]

Solution TO TSA

Here's a solution to all the controversy over full-body scanners at the airports:

All we need to do is develop a booth that you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have hidden on or in your body. The explosion will be contained within the sealed booth.


This would be a win-win for everyone. There would be none of this crap about racial profiling and the device would eliminate long and expensive trials.



This is so simple that it's brilliant. I can see it now: You're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention standby passengers we now have a seat available on flight number..."

[GOLDCYLON]

Originally Posted by scholtmj

Solution TO TSA

Here's a solution to all the controversy over full-body scanners at the airports:

All we need to do is develop a booth that you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have hidden on or in your body. The explosion will be contained within the sealed booth.


This would be a win-win for everyone. There would be none of this crap about racial profiling and the device would eliminate long and expensive trials.



This is so simple that it's brilliant. I can see it now: You're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention standby passengers we now have a seat available on flight number..."

I like this idea