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ZR-1Mike · 09-07-2009

The news about the closing of the Stillwater Mercury Marine plant.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/artic...70&archive=yes

gbrtng · 09-08-2009

In some ways this makes sense - the Fond du Lac plant is home base for Mercury Marine and it's been there at least 55 years (as long as I can remember seeing it on Hwy 41).
But the flip-flop WRT union/non-union wages makes me wonder if there might be some under-the-table government shenanigans going on. After all, WI and IL are solid blue union states, and with the Chicago political machine at full steam, one might jump to conclusions that the OK folks just aren't in favor anymore.

Z Factor · 09-08-2009

Sorry to hear the news.

09-08-2009

What the article does not tell you is that was the second vote the had. The first vote was a denial. Nobody understood what was going on and that MM was serious. Last Monday it stood that everything was moving to Oklahoma. They then had the revote, and now everything is moving to Wisconsin.

What would the morale have been for Thunder in Stillwater?

rhipsher · 09-08-2009

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Originally Posted by Jeffvette

What the article does not tell you is that was the second vote the had. The first vote was a denial. Nobody understood what was going on and that MM was serious. Last Monday it stood that everything was moving to Oklahoma. They then had the revote, and now everything is moving to Wisconsin.

What would the morale have been for Thunder in Stillwater?

Not very good. There are no smile faces sad enough to put at the end of this sentance.
The only thing that would have been a little uplifting was getting Ted Nugent to come to the Texas get together/BBQ. His personal assistant asked me for the exact dates but I havent heard anything back from her since. He's probably just to big of a name and to booked up for as small of a group as we are. But I did try my best Glenn to make it happen.

RICHARD TILL · 09-08-2009

This is sad news to say the least.

It would be interesting to know how 18 or more years ago an agreement was made to install non union manufactured engines by UAW members.

Ccmano · 09-08-2009

Frankly it's more a comment on the state of the economy. Whether they move to WI or OK, the fact remains there is not enough business to keep both plants working. As I understand it the recreational boat business is in shambles, with well known builders going out of business left and right. Now, moving into the winter time, I suspect orders are coming to a standstill. In the past other recreational businesses would have filled the void, like snowmobiles. The prognosis on that is equally grim. Non-necessity businesses will continue to struggle as long as we stay in this depression.
I'll refrain from political commentary.
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GOLDCYLON · 09-08-2009

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Originally Posted by Jeffvette

What would the morale have been for Thunder in Stillwater?

It would have went over like a turd in a punchbowl. Sad news

Aurora40 · 09-08-2009

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Originally Posted by Jeffvette

What the article does not tell you is that was the second vote the had. The first vote was a denial. Nobody understood what was going on and that MM was serious. Last Monday it stood that everything was moving to Oklahoma. They then had the revote, and now everything is moving to Wisconsin.

I wonder what the legal requirements are for MM in terms of shutting down a union plant? It sounds like they'd be much better off shedding that plant. The next time MM is in financial trouble, and there is no second plant, what do you think the odds are that the union workers will accept "wage concessions"?

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gbrtng Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Antonio area Posts: 1,179	Re: End of an Era In some ways this makes sense - the Fond du Lac plant is home base for Mercury Marine and it's been there at least 55 years (as long as I can remember seeing it on Hwy 41). But the flip-flop WRT union/non-union wages makes me wonder if there might be some under-the-table government shenanigans going on. After all, WI and IL are solid blue union states, and with the Chicago political machine at full steam, one might jump to conclusions that the OK folks just aren't in favor anymore. __________________ “Buy the best example of what you want, and pay whatever it takes. That way, you cry only once.” ~ Bruce Meyer

09-08-2009	#3
Z Factor Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: S. Florida Posts: 2,667	Re: End of an Era Sorry to hear the news.

09-08-2009	#4
Jeffvette Guest Posts: n/a	Re: End of an Era What the article does not tell you is that was the second vote the had. The first vote was a denial. Nobody understood what was going on and that MM was serious. Last Monday it stood that everything was moving to Oklahoma. They then had the revote, and now everything is moving to Wisconsin. What would the morale have been for Thunder in Stillwater?

09-08-2009	#6
RICHARD TILL Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Iuka, Mississippi 38852 Posts: 756	Re: End of an Era This is sad news to say the least. It would be interesting to know how 18 or more years ago an agreement was made to install non union manufactured engines by UAW members.

09-08-2009	#7
Ccmano Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 2,852	Re: End of an Era Frankly it's more a comment on the state of the economy. Whether they move to WI or OK, the fact remains there is not enough business to keep both plants working. As I understand it the recreational boat business is in shambles, with well known builders going out of business left and right. Now, moving into the winter time, I suspect orders are coming to a standstill. In the past other recreational businesses would have filled the void, like snowmobiles. The prognosis on that is equally grim. Non-necessity businesses will continue to struggle as long as we stay in this depression. I'll refrain from political commentary. H __________________ 90'ZR-1 #1461 Red/Black Ported Intake, Degreed Cams, OBX Headers & Exhaust, Fidanza FW, Secondary Delete, Custom tune, C6 GS Wheels. Sold 08 C6 Z51 Crystal Red Metallic Sold Vararam Intake, Tune, Sold 05 C6 Z51 Red/Black Sold 90'ZR-1 #1723 Black/Gray Sold but not forgotten 91' Z51 L98 White Vert. My First, you always remember your first. Sold.