Waxers: step in; need advice

[Sgreg]

Black Z is beginning to get a number of swirl marks that detract from the sweet shine. Paint is generally good. I do not have a Porter Cable random polisher. Can someone please describe a step by step procedure to use to polish out swirls and and restore the finish with elbow power only ?! Thanks.

[jonszr1]

its very tough to hand polish out swirls on blk paint .having a blk z i know .but that being said you could try using scratch ex by meguires. do a 2x2 sec use light pressure then seal with a poly seal by them also . a porter cable is to me a must for a blk car. if you get one buy some 3M ultra fina and the corisponding powderblue pad. use as directed on the bottle and you will have a great swirl free shine . you might also try signing on to the meguires site for help

[Sgreg]

Originally Posted by jonszr1

its very tough to hand polish out swirls on blk paint .having a blk z i know .but that being said you could try using scratch ex by meguires. do a 2x2 sec use light pressure then seal with a poly seal by them also . a porter cable is to me a must for a blk car. if you get one buy some 3M ultra fina and the corisponding powderblue pad. use as directed on the bottle and you will have a great swirl free shine . you might also try signing on to the meguires site for help

Jon, you are probably right about hand polishing. I tried some Meguires Mirror Glaze and it basically did no good. Nothing like a few hundred RPM's to make a difference. I understand buying the service is pricey. I have heard several hundred dollars to buff out a car. Is that possible ? Seems outrageous.

[louispf]

Originally Posted by Sgreg

Jon, you are probably right about hand polishing. I tried some Meguires Mirror Glaze and it basically did no good. Nothing like a few hundred RPM's to make a difference. I understand buying the service is pricey. I have heard several hundred dollars to buff out a car. Is that possible ? Seems outrageous.

In the NE especially around sothern Ct. area it is not uncommen to see $300 to buff out a car by someone who knows what they are doing.

[Aurora40]

Originally Posted by Sgreg

I tried some Meguires Mirror Glaze and it basically did no good.

What's the actual product? Mirror Glaze is their professional line, not an individual product. Almost all are made for machine use, the ones for hand use are not going to correct much of anything.

Also I second all the opinions, it will be extremely difficult to correct swirls on a black car by hand. If you are absolutely insistent, and have infinite time, I would start with something like Meguiar's Scratch-X or whatever similar product your maker of choice has. Work a small area, like 6" x 6". You will have to work it a lot to get any swirls out, as well as to break the polish down to finish nicely.

If it improves, keep trying this. If it stops improving, you are pretty much done and just need to repeat that x100 over the rest of the car. If it gets worse, you are doing it wrong and need to re-evaluate.

[Sgreg]

Thanks for the comments, guys. Black is made for an orbital polisher, I guess.

[bobbyhi]

Check out the Zaino web site. I use this but I have a white car with no swirls

[Sgreg]

Originally Posted by bobbyhi

Check out the Zaino web site. I use this but I have a white car with no swirls

Bob, you've got em but you can't see em !! White is the most forgiving color there is. Thanks for the tip.

[ZZZZZR1]

Originally Posted by Sgreg

Black Z is beginning to get a number of swirl marks that detract from the sweet shine. Paint is generally good. I do not have a Porter Cable random polisher. Can someone please describe a step by step procedure to use to polish out swirls and and restore the finish with elbow power only ?! Thanks.

Personally I have used Adams (swirl and haze remover / Revive polish) on a Z brothers car (1988 Shelby Dodge) and it did wonders on it.

Black, original paint and turned out fantastic.

But I think all the waxes out there are "similar" and there is no best wax out there.

One product I would recommend is "Adams brilliant spray". Great to use right before a car show and if you have black, you will LOVE IT.



David

[jonszr1]

i would if i were you ,really think about investing in a porter cable and some pads from meguires . you could get all set up for about 250 and then at your leasure polish your car when ever you wish . also you might pm flynryan on this site his family used to own a detail shop .he is a really nice guy that allways willing to help .also there are vids on meguires that wilol help you to learn to do the polishing your self .