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Old 03-06-2009   #1
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Looking to buy a Haibeck chip now that I have added a set of Jeals to my 91. I have DRM chip now with the fans on early, Power key on options. It will only cost me about $50 to have DRM retune the chip for the headers mod but does anyone have a MH chip laying around for a 91 so I can compare the two in a few runs? Id buy one new but holly crap its a lot of bucks to add back on what I already have plus a new Bin file for the headers.

I know you Chicago Mafia Pizza boys love his tunes but I want to really compare. Dom can you help me out here? I know you like to tweek the bin files. GC
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91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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Looking to buy a Haibeck chip now that I have added a set of Jeals to my 91. I have DRM chip now with the fans on early, Power key on options. It will only cost me about $50 to have DRM retune the chip for the headers mod but does anyone have a MH chip laying around for a 91 so I can compare the two in a few runs? Id buy one new but holly crap its a lot of bucks to add back on what I already have plus a new Bin file for the headers.

I know you Chicago Mafia Pizza boys love his tunes but I want to really compare. Dom can you help me out here? I know you like to tweek the bin files. GC

GC,

There is one on eBay for $180. Its for a 94, but we could easily transfer the VE and SA stuff over to a 91 Mask. I have some other bins for DRM and a supposedly Corey Henderson calibration for a 90 (which said Haibeck on it) but haven't scored a Haibeck one yet. With an adapter, you could run one, then pull adapter and run the original. Let me know how I can help.

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Default Re: WTB Hiabeck chip for 91

Awesome Dom so is the best way to go after the 94 chip and have you reburn it or?

Right now I have the following on the DRM chip
Early Fans
Gags Delete
Power key aways on

I can get the DRM chip done but eveybody here swears the MH chip is better wtg. Any real world stories out there? GC
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91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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Old 03-06-2009   #4
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Default Re: WTB Hiabeck chip for 91

I had DRM chip in my 91 and replaced with MH chip, car runs much better, both fans come on at the same time witch cools off quicker and does not draw as much dirt and debris in the one side of radiator. Anti backfire mode is nice also.

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Awesome Dom so is the best way to go after the 94 chip and have you reburn it or?

Right now I have the following on the DRM chip
Early Fans
Gags Delete
Power key aways on

I can get the DRM chip done but eveybody here swears the MH chip is better wtg. Any real world stories out there? GC

GC,

I've looked at the DRM chip that Lgaff had in his. The WOT timing was very abrupt. The LT5 seems prone to knock in the 4-5500rpm range, so
DRM keeps timing low (about 22*) and then immediately ramps it up to 28* after that point. That way they avoid the Knock Retard. I had an MR
chip in mine originally and when I went to headers, car didn't run any faster than with stock exhaust. I discovered the KR backed timing off. By tuning it yourself, you can come up with a better slope for the timing maximizing power and avoiding the ECM throttling back the timing because of knock.
If you get the Haibeck, we can just copy the Fuel and Spark Tables onto the DRM calibration you have now leaving everything else the way it is. I think MH also softens the Knock Retard too. Stock its something like 10* and Marc told me that was GM being cautious in case somebody used 87 octane instead of 93.

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So Dom you would need both the DRM chip and the Haibeck 94 chip and can make all this happen on the Haibeck chip?

Funny you mentioned the 4k rpms as mine tends to bog as the af mixture goes wild (more fuel than air). PM me your email address Dom I can share some dyno numbers before and after the top end porting. Thanks D
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91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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GC,

There is one on eBay for $180. Its for a 94, but we could easily transfer the VE and SA stuff over to a 91 Mask. I have some other bins for DRM and a supposedly Corey Henderson calibration for a 90 (which said Haibeck on it) but haven't scored a Haibeck one yet. With an adapter, you could run one, then pull adapter and run the original. Let me know how I can help.

Dominic
that is a corey henderson tune that i gave you .he retuned marks prom when he tuned my car after he ported the inj housings and plenum . that tune on my 90 made 409.9 rwhp with flowmaster exhaust and jeal headers, along with the porting . if anyone would like to see the dyno sheet ,just give me a fax number and i would be glad to send anyone a copy .

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that is a corey henderson tune that i gave you .he retuned marks prom when he tuned my car after he ported the inj housings and plenum . that tune on my 90 made 409.9 rwhp with flowmaster exhaust and jeal headers, along with the porting . if anyone would like to see the dyno sheet ,just give me a fax number and i would be glad to send anyone a copy .

Holly crap 409 to the rear?
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91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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