Should we keep the ZR-1 Net or Forum? - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

zr1mom · 07-30-2005

Ok lets do a poll, the question is should be keep the "ZR-1 Net" as it is today, a listservice or move to the forum format you see here?

Aurora40 · 07-30-2005

why can't you have both? The listserv is very active, the forum is not so much. Maybe over time that will change, especially as more useful info is on the forum. But for now, it would seem a bad idea to me to remove either one.

I bet if you just chopped the listserv, you wouldn't get all that conversation transferring over here. Only some of it would, some of it would just die out. Also, the listserv is a fantastic repository of info. It's harder to shoot the crap on a listserv, so most of the info is of a serious nature, and I've found answers to practically everything by just searching the listserv archive.

Tyler Townsley · 07-30-2005

Having gone through this on another list let me recommend the soultion. The software was changed so when one signed up for the forum, you could select to recieve all messages for any topic as an email in a format like we do now. This allowed one to have the best of both mediums.

Tyler

mrand · 07-30-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurora40

why can't you have both? The listserv is very active, the forum is not so much. Maybe over time that will change, especially as more useful info is on the forum. But for now, it would seem a bad idea to me to remove either one.

I don't blame mom for not wanting to manage both. My preference would be for keeping the listserv, but if the final decision is to shut it down, I will move over here. I suspect he is right that the email volume probably keeps the "membership" from growing even more. Formatted postings exactly like you want can sometimes be painful, and I don't care for having to do all the mouse clicks to see all the messages on forum software, but I'd suffer through both.

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[...]Also, the listserv is a fantastic repository of info. It's harder to shoot the crap on a listserv, so most of the info is of a serious nature, and I've found answers to practically everything by just searching the listserv archive.

Mom, this is my biggest concern. Is there a way you could import the listserv (or at least the TECH labelled emails) over here? Not having all that information searchable online would be an absolutely *HUGE* loss.

Marc

zr1mom · 07-30-2005

If the listserver was to go away the archive of past emails will still be there and available as it is today.

I know for some of you this will be painful but when listening to all the past complaints with the listservice:

- Can't have attachments which mean no pictures, or charts, etc
- Email volume
- Access
- Email changes
- Can't get email at work
- Accidently sending emails to the whole list

and so on....

I just believe the forum would be more fun.

Also as far as having both, it justs seems to delute everyone. Remember when we had more then one ZR-1 Club. People are forced to either join both or pick one.

I have listservice members who don't like getting emails and then I have people on this forum who complain there is not enough activity to make it worth hanging out here.

To me the forum offers advantages like if someone asks for help the responder could actually posts pictures or diagrams.

MOWEDELL · 07-30-2005

My Vote Is To Keep The Zr1net

Mowedell
1991 Zr1
Owned Since New

Aurora40 · 07-31-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by zr1mom

If the listserver was to go away the archive of past emails will still be there and available as it is today.

I know for some of you this will be painful but when listening to all the past complaints with the listservice:

- Can't have attachments which mean no pictures, or charts, etc
- Email volume
- Access
- Email changes
- Can't get email at work
- Accidently sending emails to the whole list

and so on....

I just believe the forum would be more fun.

Also as far as having both, it justs seems to delute everyone. Remember when we had more then one ZR-1 Club. People are forced to either join both or pick one.

I have listservice members who don't like getting emails and then I have people on this forum who complain there is not enough activity to make it worth hanging out here.

To me the forum offers advantages like if someone asks for help the responder could actually posts pictures or diagrams.

Well, if you only want to have one, I would vote for the forum. I too prefer the ability to only read threads of interest, post pictures, etc.

However, it's possible that some listserv education might help with some of those problems. I have my subscription set up as a digest, so I only get two emails per day. In addition, one can peruse the emails online if web access is easier than email access (or use a free webmail address as your listserv address like aim.com or whatever).

zr1mom · 07-31-2005

Ok, I've decided for now to postpone the shutting down of the ZR-1 Net listservice and to continue to keep both the listservice and forum.

Hopefully in time members will see the benefits of having a forum over a listserver. However I've remove any links on the ZR-1 Net Registry web site to joining the ZR-1 Net listservice.

I

to the masses.

Thanks!

kely x · 07-30-2005

Keep the list

ZR1Brian · 07-30-2005

Dave,
I vote for the forum.
With the forum you can view only the subjects you want to read and do not have to receive all the messages.
Brian

View Poll Results: "ZR-1 Net" keep as listserver or new Forum?
Listservice?	28	43.75%
Forum?	24	37.50%
Keep both?	12	18.75%
Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll

07-30-2005	#1
zr1mom Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 421	Should we keep the ZR-1 Net or Forum? Ok lets do a poll, the question is should be keep the "ZR-1 Net" as it is today, a listservice or move to the forum format you see here? __________________ ZR-1 Mom Founder ZR-1 Net Registry Founder ZR-1 Net NCM Lifetime Member

07-30-2005	#5
zr1mom Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 421	If the listserver was to go away the archive of past emails will still be there and available as it is today. I know for some of you this will be painful but when listening to all the past complaints with the listservice: - Can't have attachments which mean no pictures, or charts, etc - Email volume - Access - Email changes - Can't get email at work - Accidently sending emails to the whole list and so on.... I just believe the forum would be more fun. Also as far as having both, it justs seems to delute everyone. Remember when we had more then one ZR-1 Club. People are forced to either join both or pick one. I have listservice members who don't like getting emails and then I have people on this forum who complain there is not enough activity to make it worth hanging out here. To me the forum offers advantages like if someone asks for help the responder could actually posts pictures or diagrams. __________________ ZR-1 Mom Founder ZR-1 Net Registry Founder ZR-1 Net NCM Lifetime Member

07-30-2005	#6
MOWEDELL Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1	Keep Zr1net My Vote Is To Keep The Zr1net Mowedell 1991 Zr1 Owned Since New

07-31-2005	#8
zr1mom Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 421	Ok, I've decided for now to postpone the shutting down of the ZR-1 Net listservice and to continue to keep both the listservice and forum. Hopefully in time members will see the benefits of having a forum over a listserver. However I've remove any links on the ZR-1 Net Registry web site to joining the ZR-1 Net listservice. I to the masses. Thanks! __________________ ZR-1 Mom Founder ZR-1 Net Registry Founder ZR-1 Net NCM Lifetime Member Last edited by zr1mom; 07-31-2005 at 12:45 PM.

07-30-2005	#2
Aurora40 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 2,704	why can't you have both? The listserv is very active, the forum is not so much. Maybe over time that will change, especially as more useful info is on the forum. But for now, it would seem a bad idea to me to remove either one. I bet if you just chopped the listserv, you wouldn't get all that conversation transferring over here. Only some of it would, some of it would just die out. Also, the listserv is a fantastic repository of info. It's harder to shoot the crap on a listserv, so most of the info is of a serious nature, and I've found answers to practically everything by just searching the listserv archive.

07-30-2005	#3
Tyler Townsley Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nichols, FL Posts: 611	Having gone through this on another list let me recommend the soultion. The software was changed so when one signed up for the forum, you could select to recieve all messages for any topic as an email in a format like we do now. This allowed one to have the best of both mediums. Tyler

07-30-2005	#9
kely x Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5	Keep the list

07-30-2005	#10
ZR1Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4	Dave, I vote for the forum. With the forum you can view only the subjects you want to read and do not have to receive all the messages. Brian