Wheel sensors destroyed through tire removal? - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

billschroeder5842 · 12-09-2019

I'm going to need to get a new set of tires pretty soon, so I'm doing some pre planning.

I was thinking of getting my wheels (91 sawblades) refinished at the same time as the tires. They have no curb rash but some pitting and stains/fading. The idea is remove the old ties, refinish and then mount the new tires on super "new" wheels.

I spoke to a local (ARS Wheels) shop that has a good reputation. They said that I will need to get a full set of sensors as they will not guarantee their "survival" through removal or install. (BTW, they want $180 per wheel.... FYI)

Is that true? I've never head such a thing. Obviously a new set of sensors complicates this project and ads an additional (pretty stout) expense.

So is removing the tires hazardous to sensors or do I need another shop?

RussMcB · 12-10-2019

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Originally Posted by billschroeder5842

(BTW, they want $180 per wheel.... FYI)

Good lord.

DRM500RUBYZR-1 · 12-10-2019

Find another shop.
Marty

Young1 · 12-10-2019

In the 90s these wheel sensors were a new thing. But this Type of band wheel sensor is now quite common. Proficient shops are used to them. I agree go to a different shop.

Hib Halverson · 12-13-2019

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Originally Posted by Young1

In the 90s these wheel sensors were a new thing. But this Type of band wheel sensor is now quite common. Proficient shops are used to them. I agree go to a different shop.

A little about the early TPM system.

First of all 1990 was not the first year for the TPM system. It was introduced in 1989 and had been in production more than a year when the ZR-1 debuted.

The "band type" sensors are long a thing of the past. Back in the late 90s, the Corvette went to sensors integrated into the valve stem and all other manufacturers use that type of sensor.

You need to find a competent tire service facility which is familiar with the C4 Corvette TPM system. America's Tire/Discount Tire stores are usually my choice when I need competent tire service. Don't rely on some wheel shop for that. If the tire shop is aware of the sensors, has the proper equipment and knows how to use it, when they break the outer bead, then go to remove the tire they can take care to not break the sensors. When I had Barney, I had tire work done several times and my tire service vendor at the time never even touched one of those sensors.

As for the early C4 sensors coming loose, that's vary rare. While the body of the sensor is partially plastic, the retention band is stainless steel and, if installed properly, is not going to come loose.

What does fail are the sensors them selves. Seems to me there is some really old stuff floating around on the Internet on how to disassemble and repair those sensors.

Ccmano · 12-13-2019

I’m for removing them. Plastic, especially 90’s plastic does not age well. Unless the car has been yours since day one who knows how they have been treated during the replacement of tires. Even then you don’t necessarily know what the tire shop did. When I got my (albeit high mile) car and pulled mine all four were floating around loose inside the tires.
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klork · 12-10-2019

That is a ton of money per wheel to get refinished unless they need a lot or reworking due to a lot of curb rash or some other significant damage. I do powder coating as a side business and charge $75 a wheel for most colors and a clear coat. That includes blasting to bare metal. Pretty much all other shops around me are the same price. I also follow a large group on facebook and even the more expensive shops I see on there start out at $100 a wheel for a color coat and I think about $140 with a clear coat.

tccrab · 12-10-2019

I had the local America's Tire Company remove the wheel sensors when I replaced my tires this summer.
No charge.
No damage.

Find a reputable shop.

billschroeder5842 · 12-10-2019

Thanks guys- this made no sense to me either. Thanks for the 3rd-party validation.

I'll check out some other shops.

HAWAIIZR-1 · 12-12-2019

I don’t understand how these shops damage sensors. I did it myself at the auto hobby shop. All you do is break the bead where the label indicates, then the bead/tire is held down while you unscrew the clamp and pull out the band and sensor. The reverse to install. It’s sad that actual tire shops can’t do this. [emoji22] Its not difficult at all, but I guess you have to give a crap.

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billschroeder5842 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 592	Wheel sensors destroyed through tire removal? I'm going to need to get a new set of tires pretty soon, so I'm doing some pre planning. I was thinking of getting my wheels (91 sawblades) refinished at the same time as the tires. They have no curb rash but some pitting and stains/fading. The idea is remove the old ties, refinish and then mount the new tires on super "new" wheels. I spoke to a local (ARS Wheels) shop that has a good reputation. They said that I will need to get a full set of sensors as they will not guarantee their "survival" through removal or install. (BTW, they want $180 per wheel.... FYI) Is that true? I've never head such a thing. Obviously a new set of sensors complicates this project and ads an additional (pretty stout) expense. So is removing the tires hazardous to sensors or do I need another shop? __________________ Bill Schroeder Texas Proud! 1991 Corvette ZR1 #1388 2015 Challenger Scat Pack Shaker Last edited by billschroeder5842; 12-09-2019 at 10:26 PM.

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DRM500RUBYZR-1 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mullica Hill, New Jersey Posts: 2,593	Re: Wheel sensors destroyed through tire removal? Find another shop. Marty

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Young1 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 900	Re: Wheel sensors destroyed through tire removal? In the 90s these wheel sensors were a new thing. But this Type of band wheel sensor is now quite common. Proficient shops are used to them. I agree go to a different shop. __________________ Steve Young 1991 ZR-1 Quasar Blue Metallic/Black #729 Second Owner 1991 ZR-1 Dark Red Metallic/Black #2040 SOLD 1990 ZR-1 Dark Red Metallic/Saddle #1670 SOLD Double your happiness.....complain half as much.

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Ccmano Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 2,852	Re: Wheel sensors destroyed through tire removal? I’m for removing them. Plastic, especially 90’s plastic does not age well. Unless the car has been yours since day one who knows how they have been treated during the replacement of tires. Even then you don’t necessarily know what the tire shop did. When I got my (albeit high mile) car and pulled mine all four were floating around loose inside the tires. H __________________ 90'ZR-1 #1461 Red/Black Ported Intake, Degreed Cams, OBX Headers & Exhaust, Fidanza FW, Secondary Delete, Custom tune, C6 GS Wheels. Sold 08 C6 Z51 Crystal Red Metallic Sold Vararam Intake, Tune, Sold 05 C6 Z51 Red/Black Sold 90'ZR-1 #1723 Black/Gray Sold but not forgotten 91' Z51 L98 White Vert. My First, you always remember your first. Sold.

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klork Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: ohio Posts: 68	Re: Wheel sensors destroyed through tire removal? That is a ton of money per wheel to get refinished unless they need a lot or reworking due to a lot of curb rash or some other significant damage. I do powder coating as a side business and charge $75 a wheel for most colors and a clear coat. That includes blasting to bare metal. Pretty much all other shops around me are the same price. I also follow a large group on facebook and even the more expensive shops I see on there start out at $100 a wheel for a color coat and I think about $140 with a clear coat.

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tccrab Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Folsom CA Posts: 1,655	Re: Wheel sensors destroyed through tire removal? I had the local America's Tire Company remove the wheel sensors when I replaced my tires this summer. No charge. No damage. Find a reputable shop. __________________ TomC '90ZR1 #792 Honorary Pirate [B]If it ain't FUN, you're doing something terribly WRONG. [/B]

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HAWAIIZR-1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 3,582	Wheel sensors destroyed through tire removal? I don’t understand how these shops damage sensors. I did it myself at the auto hobby shop. All you do is break the bead where the label indicates, then the bead/tire is held down while you unscrew the clamp and pull out the band and sensor. The reverse to install. It’s sad that actual tire shops can’t do this. [emoji22] Its not difficult at all, but I guess you have to give a crap. Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry __________________ Craig "ZR-1 NO KA 'OI" "ZR-1 ICHIBAN" 1995 #228 Black/Black with Dunn Heads ZR-1 owner since September 2003 ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #0074 NCM Lifetime Member #2048 Last edited by HAWAIIZR-1; 12-14-2019 at 12:59 PM.