LED Headlight with fog light issue...

[-=Jeff=-]

Yeah, I know it has been posted and gone over several times.

BUT

Now time to post my solution I used on my 1990

**Disclaimer: Findings based on my 1990 and FSM, other years may vary**

In the FSM the shows that the Fog light relay grounds through the High Beam. When the high beams are activated in the OEM solution, 12v is applied on both sides of the coil for the relay which then causes the lights to turn off.

When we switch to LED, the high beam filament is replace with electronics, so that does not work so well. Most use resistors, which to me, still gives the load of a Halogen/ Filament light, yes it works, but I want the efficiency benefit.

I acquired a socket and relay from a donor harness I have, I added the relay to my harness to accomplish what I need. Here are the details:


Find the Fog Lamp relay. in my 1990 it is the furthest to the right under the dash.. Look for the Light Green wire. that is the wire you need to manipulate..

Unpin the LT GRN from the current relay move it to 86 of the added relay.

Pin a new wire in the spot where you removed the LT GRN (it is either 85 or 86), Pin the other end of this wire to 87a of your added relay.

On the added relay, Pin 30 and Pin 85 are both connected to ground.

Done, no wires cut, not relays tampered with. I have not installed LED Headlights just yet, but got the car ready for them. So this should work without issue. works fine with my current lights. I will be adding LED Headlights and LED Fog Lights soon.

[Ccmano]

Nice, mine will be in process tomorrow. Sounds like the most elegant solution yet.
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[XfireZ51]

I used a variation of Yun’s solution by cutting the relay leg connected to the lt grn wire and then soldering a wire to that cut down leg running it to a ground using as stud found halfway up alongside the door opening. The stud will be easier to see if u remove the side bezel for the fuse panel.

[Ccmano]

Relay location is Driver side or passenger side?
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[Paul Workman]

Originally Posted by XfireZ51

I used a variation of Yun’s solution by cutting the relay leg connected to the lt grn wire and then soldering a wire to that cut down leg running it to a ground using as stud found halfway up alongside the door opening. The stud will be easier to see if u remove the side bezel for the fuse panel.

Works, yes. But, now your fog lights operate independent of you headlights - they won't turn off when high beams are turned on, unless you manually turn them off.

No issue in IL. Local laws may vary.

[Ccmano]

Originally Posted by Paul Workman

Works, yes. But, now your fog lights operate independent of you headlights - they won't turn off when high beams are turned on, unless you manually turn them off.

No issue in IL. Local laws may vary.

That’s exactly what I wanted. I suspect that’s one of the last laws the police will enforce in places where that is the case. Just look at all the goofy headlight configurations that are out there when you drive anywhere at night these days.
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[XfireZ51]

Originally Posted by Paul Workman

Works, yes. But, now your fog lights operate independent of you headlights - they won't turn off when high beams are turned on, unless you manually turn them off.

No issue in IL. Local laws may vary.

Paul,

I wanted them to stay on w high beams. Did the same thing on my Xfire.

[Paul Workman]

Originally Posted by XfireZ51

Paul,

I wanted them to stay on w high beams. Did the same thing on my Xfire.

Gotcha. PM sent.

[-=Jeff=-]

Passenger side

[XfireZ51]

FSM shows location incorrectly. Of the 4 relays there, its the one closest to the passenger door opening.