Swapping shifters... - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

Paul Workman · 07-11-2015

Boy... After driving Ami's Z with the Hurst (short, crash-through) shifter a little bit, that is one mod I'd like to do on my 90.

Can I ask a noob kinda question? I assume the transmission has to come off to do the change...BUT DOES IT? I'd hate to drop the trans, only to find that I didn't need to.

FU · 07-11-2015

Send your stock shifter out to Bill B at ZF Doc. You and your ZF will be better off.

5ABI VT · 07-11-2015

Trans doesn't need to come out for shfter install

-=Jeff=- · 07-11-2015

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Originally Posted by FU

Send your stock shifter out to Bill B at ZF Doc. You and your ZF will be better off.

Why what is wrong with the Hurst?

Hib Halverson · 07-11-2015

There is nothing wrong with the Hurst. In fact, I feel it's a better design than most of the aftermarket shifters out there.

I've head one in my '95 for about 15 years and it works great. Somewhat shorter throw and much better feel though removal of the stock shifters rubber vibration isolator.

The Hurst was designed by Chris Reinhart who, at one time was (and may still be) a ZR-1 owner. In fact, he designed the shfiter for his own car then sold the design to Hurst.

A shifter change on a C4 with a ZF S6-40 does not require removal of the trans. You remove the center console trim then pull off the lower shift boot and, viola...there's the shifter.

Jagdpanzer · 07-11-2015

I have had both the Hust and Bill B's in my 94 Z and prefer the more solid feel of the Hurst.
A while back Johnny Phrogs posted a good write up on doing a Hust install on the other forum:
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...r-install.html

FU · 07-12-2015

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Originally Posted by -=Jeff=-

Why what is wrong with the Hurst?

Bad experience with the Hurst shifter on the ZF. Plus I just don't care for it. I prefer the Billy B shifter.

RussMcB · 07-12-2015

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Originally Posted by FU

Bad experience with the Hurst shifter on the ZF.

Can you elaborate? I was just about to click 'Buy'.

Thanks.

HAWAIIZR-1 · 07-12-2015

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Originally Posted by RussMcB

Can you elaborate? I was just about to click 'Buy'.

Thanks.

Bill Boudreau shifters:

http://www.zfdoc.com/S6-40ShifterOptions.htm

FU · 07-12-2015

It's hard to explain. The Hurst shifter was installed on one of my ZR'1's. Shortly after the install I had trouble going into 4th gear during spirited driving. That was very unusual to have trouble with 4th gear. Out went the transmission to Billy for a full cryo job and let him put back a stock modified shifter. That trans now has been in 2 modified cars and a lot of hard shifts with no problem whatsoever. Just change the oil that's all. And these ZF's need the oil changed often. And don't forget to change the clutch fluid too.

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Paul Workman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri Posts: 6,493	Swapping shifters... Boy... After driving Ami's Z with the Hurst (short, crash-through) shifter a little bit, that is one mod I'd like to do on my 90. Can I ask a noob kinda question? I assume the transmission has to come off to do the change...BUT DOES IT? I'd hate to drop the trans, only to find that I didn't need to. __________________ Good carz, good food, good friendz = the best of timez! 90 #1202 "FBI" top end ported & relieved Cam timing by "Pete the Greek" Sans secondaries Chip & dyno tuning by Haibeck Automotive SW headers, X-pipe, MF muffs Former Secretary, ZR-1 Net Registry

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FU Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Found Member Posts: 4,346	Re: Swapping shifters... Send your stock shifter out to Bill B at ZF Doc. You and your ZF will be better off. __________________ Frank Urbo. NCM Lifetime member # 982 Registry Founding # 237

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5ABI VT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Toronto Posts: 783	Re: Swapping shifters... Trans doesn't need to come out for shfter install

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Hib Halverson Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CenCoast California Posts: 899	Re: Swapping shifters... There is nothing wrong with the Hurst. In fact, I feel it's a better design than most of the aftermarket shifters out there. I've head one in my '95 for about 15 years and it works great. Somewhat shorter throw and much better feel though removal of the stock shifters rubber vibration isolator. The Hurst was designed by Chris Reinhart who, at one time was (and may still be) a ZR-1 owner. In fact, he designed the shfiter for his own car then sold the design to Hurst. A shifter change on a C4 with a ZF S6-40 does not require removal of the trans. You remove the center console trim then pull off the lower shift boot and, viola...there's the shifter. __________________ Hib Halverson Technical Writer former owner 95 VIN 0140 current owner 19 VIN 1878

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Jagdpanzer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,661	Re: Swapping shifters... I have had both the Hust and Bill B's in my 94 Z and prefer the more solid feel of the Hurst. A while back Johnny Phrogs posted a good write up on doing a Hust install on the other forum: http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...r-install.html __________________ Phil Wasinger 1994 Torch Red ZR-1 WAZOO Member George Braml Intake

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FU Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Found Member Posts: 4,346	Re: Swapping shifters... It's hard to explain. The Hurst shifter was installed on one of my ZR'1's. Shortly after the install I had trouble going into 4th gear during spirited driving. That was very unusual to have trouble with 4th gear. Out went the transmission to Billy for a full cryo job and let him put back a stock modified shifter. That trans now has been in 2 modified cars and a lot of hard shifts with no problem whatsoever. Just change the oil that's all. And these ZF's need the oil changed often. And don't forget to change the clutch fluid too. __________________ Frank Urbo. NCM Lifetime member # 982 Registry Founding # 237