Question on ultra low mile ZR1s

[stuntmanmike]

Hey Guys,
New to to the forum, and looking to purchase my first ZR1/Vette.

What are your thoughts on buying a ZR1 with less than 1000 miles? Safe to assume there may have been years where the car didnt run - do you see issues with seals, gaskets, bushings, etc. drying out, cracking?

Any sense of what kind of work would need to be done to get one of these roadworthy?

Thanks,
Mike

[Kevin]

money...lots of money. for the premium a no mile car will bring you're better off getting a higher mile car and driving that and saving the rest for repairs

[Dynomite]

Originally Posted by stuntmanmike

Hey Guys,
New to to the forum, and looking to purchase my first ZR1/Vette.

What are your thoughts on buying a ZR1 with less than 1000 miles? Safe to assume there may have been years where the car didnt run - do you see issues with seals, gaskets, bushings, etc. drying out, cracking?

Any sense of what kind of work would need to be done to get one of these roadworthy?

Thanks,
Mike

Welcome

Less than 1,000 miles will be way Over Priced as a collector ZR-1 if you are looking for reliability/driving fun. Exactly as you say....maybe some of the normal issues which are age related having nothing to do with driving. The best mileage I have found is between 50K and say 75K miles. You should have someone knowledgeable check anything you are considering buying first just as a precaution.

But on the other hand........You apparently plan on driving (roadworthy) a ZR1 with less than 1,000 miles on it which is fine and the kicks you get out of driving an essentially show room ZR1 might be worth it to you.

Again.....change the fluids and if no check engine lights and no misses at any speed........and if the vacuum pump shuts off within a few seconds with key on......go for it

I think what everyone will suggest is that the value of the ZR1 drops quickly as you add miles beyond a very low mileage ZR1 to say 30,000 miles more or less. But the value of the fun driving a showroom ZR1 may be worth it as that is no different than say buying a showroom any model in essentially new condition.

The most important test I do up front is a compression test after that just pull the plenum and eliminate TB coolant and recondition everything under the plenum (secondaries, injectors, starter, coils) and you will have a very reliable driver no matter the original miles.

Seals unlikely, gaskets unlikely, bushings and tires hardened but not worn......If there is a check engine light or a miss at any speed or if the vacuum pump does not shut off within a few seconds with key on.........Probably pull plenum and recondition/replace injectors, change Engine oil, Transmission oil, and Differential oil as well as make sure you have green antifreeze 1825M GM Spec. LT5/ZR-1 Fluids

[A1990]

A ZR-1 with <1000 miles is a museum/collector piece. If you want to buy a ZR-1 to drive, and you have a budget to buy a collector car, buy a low mile (10,000-30,000 mile) 95 ZR-1.

If you are thinking that you should buy this ultra low mile car, put it in your collection and don't worry about driving it.

[scottfab]

Originally Posted by A1990

A ZR-1 with <1000 miles is a museum/collector piece. If you want to buy a ZR-1 to drive, and you have a budget to buy a collector car, but a low mile (10,000-30,000 mile) 95 ZR-1.

If you are thinking that you should buy this ultra low mile car, put it in your collection and don't worry about driving it.

Mike,
Dennis just nailed it. If this is a buy for the low miles to keep in a collection then doing a few things (fluids, plugs etc) would be it. As it sits with that kind of mileage that would be the best thing. Low mileage cars get more rare all the time. A low mileage car is very unlikely to have engine damage.

If you intend to drive the car and want it to remain worth max $ (should you want to sell it later) then I would not do mods that are hard to undo. It's rare that a heavily modified and customed ZR-1 will retain it's value well. (that must be clarified to be obviously my opinion)

If max speed and performance is the goal and resale value is of no or less concern then get out your check book and have fun. The $ is the lesser concern.

In any case weigh carefully any advice you get to modify the car until you fully get the pros and cons.

Most ZR-1s out there, being as old as they are now, have been maintained
and those that have been ripped up will be fairly easy to spot.
Good luck with which ever car you pick.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Originally Posted by scottfab

Mike,
Dennis just nailed it. If this is a buy for the low miles to keep in a collection then doing a few things (fluids, plugs etc) would be it. As it sits with that kind of mileage that would be the best thing. Low mileage cars get more rare all the time. A low mileage car is very unlikely to have engine damage.

If you intend to drive the car and want it to remain worth max $ (should you want to sell it later) then I would not do mods that are hard to undo. It's rare that a heavily modified and customed ZR-2 (ZR-2 meaning not a ZR-1 anymore) will retain it's value well.

If max speed and performance is the goal and resale value is of no or less concern then get out your check book and have fun.

In any case weigh carefully any advice you get to modify the car until you fully get the pros and cons.

Most ZR-1s out there, being as old as they are now, have been maintained
and those that have been ripped up will be fairly easy to spot.
Good luck with which ever car you pick.

I agree. Read all kinds of posts and threads here and soak up the good, bad and ugly in regards to stock and modded cars. There is a way to mod a ZR-1 with excellent results. You'll learn these methods here. Some people will even pay a premium for a properly modded car.

Many of us here modify our ZR-1's and enjoy them just as many here enjoy their completely stock ZR-1's.
And if your preference is a 100% stock ZR-1, you're in the right place to keep it maintained that way.

This is a great place to be if you love the ZR-1!

Long live the ZR-1.

Brett Henderson

[Dynomite]

Originally Posted by Blue Flame Restorations

I agree. Read all kinds of posts and threads here and soak up the good, bad and ugly in regards to stock and modded cars. There is a way to mod a ZR-1 with excellent results. You'll learn this methods here. Some people will even pay a premium for a properly modded car.

Many of us here modify our ZR-1's and enjoy them just as many here enjoy their completely stock ZR-1's.
And if your preference is a 100% stock ZR-1, you're in the right place to keep it maintained that way.

This is a great place to be if you love the ZR-1!

Long live the ZR-1.

Brett Henderson

Concur Completely and I have no clue and have not seen a ripped up ZR-1 or ripped up LT5

There were NO modifications that cannot be reversed. There was nothing against (Cons) any of the Modifications. All Modifications improved performance, reliability, and value of the LT5s, L98 and ZR-1s.

My ZR-1s and Corvette (L98) all run perfectly and are modified/improved each differently (a 90', 91', and a 90')

See.........
LT5 Eliminated Systems
Marc Haibeck on LT5 Eliminated Secondaries
LT5 Added Systems

90' LT5


91' LT5


90' L98

[A26B]

Originally Posted by Blue Flame Restorations

Scott, while I respect other's opinions, I am asking that you respect others as well and remove the reference highlighted in RED. I also ask that you refrain from slamming modified ZR-1's here in the future.

Many of us here modify our ZR-1's and enjoy them just as many here enjoy their completely stock ZR-1's. The ZR-2 reference is offensive to myself and I believe it will be to others as well.

This is a ZR-1 community and NOT a ZR-1 and ZR-2 community.

Please don't be offended by my public request as this is only in the spirit of unity among all kinds of ZR-1 owners and drivers here.

Long live the ZR-1.

Brett Henderson

Thank you, I agree wholeheartedly.
Mine is about as modified as it can get! I had a 93 40thRubyZee with 168 miles on the odometer for several years & it was nice to sit in and smell the new, but was completely useless to me.

[Racinfan83]

Originally Posted by A1990

A ZR-1 with <1000 miles is a museum/collector piece. If you want to buy a ZR-1 to drive, and you have a budget to buy a collector car, but a low mile (10,000-30,000 mile) 95 ZR-1.

If you are thinking that you should buy this ultra low mile car, put it in your collection and don't worry about driving it.

I am less then a year into this (got my Z last April) - but from all I have read and learned - ^^^ exactly!
Just for reference - I got mine with 17k miles on it and I have dropped about $4k on it already. Had Marc Haibeck do injectors, coils, coolant flush and remove radiator and clean it, + his chip. I have also gotten the A/C switched over to R134, had an issue with a brakelight switch, and have replaced any interior pieces that were cracked. I have a set of '95 Sport seats and stuff to put them in sitting in garage right now ( if you are a bigger guy the 90-93 Sport seats might not be too comfy - I'm 6'1" 225) And I still have to drop another $1k on a set of tires (long story)
SO - if you want a DRIVER - get one that has had all the stuff done to it already and DRIVE it. If you want a collector - pay the $ and let er sit... JMO

[lisounds]

i purchase a low mile 1995 red z back in september
the car had a little over 2,400 miles
the owner stated that over the years he did drive it around the neiborhood and open it up a little for maintenance
before buying it i took it for a test ride check all options and the only thing i found wrong was a leaky clutch slave cylinder
which i had rebuilt by power torque (excellant service )
since then i have driven the car on 3 short drives totaling 100 miles
and so far so good
i do know that it is a 19 years old that is near brand new and there will be a few small issues from time to time ( now that i jinxed myself)
but for me i enjoy the fact that the condition of the car is perfect ( paint , interior, weatherstrip etc.) and i know the history of it.

buy what you like ... be happy with your purchase... and do with it what you want

life is short