Al and Pete Fuschion - First Sounds - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

XfireZ51 · 02-09-2012

I can tell you the overall sound is that of a very ANGRY car with an aggressive throttle. Reminds me of my Chow Bear when sensing danger. It has a throatiness and some of the rasp of the Corsa but at a much deeper level. SOTP feels significant for whatever that is worth. Throttle is very responsive. It was a cold day so tires really couldn't bite. Second gear punch at 3500 and car was going sideways. I kept the ASR ON.

MagnaFlow here:

And then the DynoMax w Z06 tips after Dr. A. Dashto's radical surgery assisted by Dr. P. Polatsidis;

Blue Flame Restorations · 02-09-2012

Sounds smooth and low. Nice.

GOLDCYLON · 02-09-2012

Whats the RPM at idle ? Rosa sounds pissed off

XfireZ51 · 02-09-2012

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Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON

Whats the RPM at idle ? Rosa sounds pissed off

750-825. I'm pretty sure I'll need to do a re-tune just not sure how extensive. I should have brought my scanner and data logged the ride home. Then recalc VE.

GOLDCYLON · 02-09-2012

Sounds agressive Pete

4-cam · 02-10-2012

Sounds great Dom, How does she sound out on the road with the valve open? Any Drone? I'm looking to do something similar with my exhaust sans the flapper valve.

Pete · 02-10-2012

Different tips make different sound.
Al has same set up with B&B tips sounds different then ZO6 tips.
We will have to post sound clip of Al's set up.

Pete

HAWAIIZR-1 · 02-11-2012

Dom/Pete,

Thanks for clarifying and it makes sense about the double walled tips. If I remember correctly the B&B are only rolled edge but still a single wall design. Darn, those Z06 might be harder to find, cut off and then shipped to me and also wondering about how to connect the flapper on the 90MY where the charcoal cannister is in the front and not the rear; not sure what vacuum sources are easy to tap into. I like the Mr. Gas 4" tips that are double walled. I might not mind just a beast, but touring long distance when I do could drive me crazy or give me a headache. Thanks for all the input and guidance.

XfireZ51 · 02-11-2012

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Originally Posted by HAWAIIZR-1

Dom/Pete,

Thanks for clarifying and it makes sense about the double walled tips. If I remember correctly the B&B are only rolled edge but still a single wall design. Darn, those Z06 might be harder to find, cut off and then shipped to me and also wondering about how to connect the flapper on the 90MY where the charcoal cannister is in the front and not the rear; not sure what vacuum sources are easy to tap into. I like the Mr. Gas 4" tips that are double walled. I might not mind just a beast, but touring long distance when I do could drive me crazy or give me a headache. Thanks for all the input and guidance.

If you notice the prototype B+B that LB posted have the B+B shape tips but they are double walled.
BTW, nothing against the Dr. Gas stuff but the tips alone are $60 ea. You could find complete Z06 tips w flappers for that or a bit more.

HAWAIIZR-1 · 02-11-2012

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Originally Posted by XfireZ51

If you notice the prototype B+B that LB posted have the B+B shape tips but they are double walled.
BTW, nothing against the Dr. Gas stuff but the tips alone are $60 ea. You could find complete Z06 tips w flappers for that or a bit more.

Dom,
Yes, I noticed that and those are very nice....but I don't even dare ask them how much. It seems to be the going price of high quality double walled tips but, yes I am considering that with the total price of tips in mind. I'll still in search mode, but also have to figure out how to tie in the flappers or go electronic control (even more cost). Thanks again for all your help.

02-09-2012	#1
XfireZ51 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 9,708	Al and Pete Fuschion - First Sounds I can tell you the overall sound is that of a very ANGRY car with an aggressive throttle. Reminds me of my Chow Bear when sensing danger. It has a throatiness and some of the rasp of the Corsa but at a much deeper level. SOTP feels significant for whatever that is worth. Throttle is very responsive. It was a cold day so tires really couldn't bite. Second gear punch at 3500 and car was going sideways. I kept the ASR ON. MagnaFlow here: And then the DynoMax w Z06 tips after Dr. A. Dashto's radical surgery assisted by Dr. P. Polatsidis; Last edited by XfireZ51; 02-09-2012 at 10:33 PM.

02-09-2012	#2
Blue Flame Restorations Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pendleton, IN Posts: 3,904	Re: Al and Pete Fuschion - First Sounds Sounds smooth and low. Nice. __________________ 1988 KOH Prototype EX5023 sold 1990 ZR-1 #444 Convertible 1990 ZR-1 Black #966 1991 ZR-1 Quazar Blue #296 1957 Duntov SS Project

02-09-2012	#3
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,155	Re: Al and Pete Fuschion - First Sounds Whats the RPM at idle ? Rosa sounds pissed off __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

02-09-2012	#5
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,155	Re: Al and Pete Fuschion - First Sounds Sounds agressive Pete __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

02-10-2012	#6
4-cam Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Arvada Colorado Posts: 194	Re: Al and Pete Fuschion - First Sounds Sounds great Dom, How does she sound out on the road with the valve open? Any Drone? I'm looking to do something similar with my exhaust sans the flapper valve. __________________ [I]4-cam[/I] [I]1991 ZR-1 Blk/Gry #31[/I] [I]SW Headers/Xpipe- Dynomax Muffs[/I] [I]Ported top end[/I] [I]Secondaries Removed[/I] Tune by Dominic

02-10-2012	#7
Pete Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicagoland,IL Posts: 2,679	Re: Al and Pete Fuschion - First Sounds Different tips make different sound. Al has same set up with B&B tips sounds different then ZO6 tips. We will have to post sound clip of Al's set up. Pete __________________ '91 #1635 PoloGreen 350 LT5 11.09 @ 129.27 11.04 @ 128.86 474RWHP 400RWTQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFNFOhGGlR4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRIOMwaDYY https://sites.google.com/site/peteszr1garage Last edited by Pete; 02-10-2012 at 12:08 PM.

02-11-2012	#8
HAWAIIZR-1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 3,582	Re: Al and Pete Fuschion - First Sounds Dom/Pete, Thanks for clarifying and it makes sense about the double walled tips. If I remember correctly the B&B are only rolled edge but still a single wall design. Darn, those Z06 might be harder to find, cut off and then shipped to me and also wondering about how to connect the flapper on the 90MY where the charcoal cannister is in the front and not the rear; not sure what vacuum sources are easy to tap into. I like the Mr. Gas 4" tips that are double walled. I might not mind just a beast, but touring long distance when I do could drive me crazy or give me a headache. Thanks for all the input and guidance. __________________ Craig "ZR-1 NO KA 'OI" "ZR-1 ICHIBAN" 1995 #228 Black/Black with Dunn Heads ZR-1 owner since September 2003 ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #0074 NCM Lifetime Member #2048