Windshield Delamination - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

Demps · 02-23-2006

There are some very smart folks here that have some very good contacts. Here's a question to ponder:

What is causing the windshields to delaminate?

Does the UV film have an adhesive that is breaking down? How was the glass formed around both sides? Some have delam on the top, some have streaks and some have all. Every once in a while you see one without delam--at least not very noticeable. Is it a matter of when not if? Is there a way to seal/reseal the glass to fix it?

Why can't we (with all our resourses) get some more made? We can get headers, exhaust and even still tires (hold your breath) made for the limited production GM Bastard-child. How can a major industrial giant abandon a production car and parts supply only 10 years after production-----Wait they are in bankrupcy. Take care of your customers and they will take car of you.

Ted

We Gone · 02-24-2006

Why is it the Lumina Vans with the same type of windshield never have the issue...

Z Factor · 02-24-2006

I spoke with a gentleman from the commercial side of what was LOF, who has been with them for decades. He speculated it was in the prep work prior to sealing the windshield. Probably large batches of them were not properly prepared, hence the amount of delaminating windshields we are seeing today. There are in fact some perfect windshields, I am lucky enough to have one on my 1990, and I hope it stays that way.

Still, I would like to find a solution to the problem so many of us are experiencing.

When I spoke to different people within the company, they seemed ambivalent to our issue. I am friends with an attorney locally who lives for large class actions suits, and he made it sound like an uphill battle (read small profit motivation). I also called several different manufactures about producing a similar windshield, but there was no interest. All this is not to say something cannot be done, but it does not look promising.

BTW- Don't tell anyone I have an attorney for a friend.

Aurora40 · 02-24-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by We Gone

Why is it the Lumina Vans with the same type of windshield never have the issue...

A different manufacturer. PPG made the Lumina APV windshield, LOF made ours. PPG also makes our back hatch glass.

Maybe they figured that owners of the most advanced and expensive car GM had made to date would put up with some quirks, but minivan owners wouldn't stand for that kind of crap.

Z Factor · 02-26-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurora40

Maybe they figured that owners of the most advanced and expensive car GM had made to date would put up with some quirks, but minivan owners wouldn't stand for that kind of crap.

blackjack · 02-27-2006

i suppose the process is irreversible...how bad can it become? somebody has pictures of a bad one?mine has started around the edges...i guess to have those large companies interested,we need to order a thousand windshields
minimum,with a milion dollars deposit...

blackjack
91/1735

Nick · 02-27-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackjack

how bad can it become?

Pretty darned bad; check out the windshield in the almost zero mile last ZR-1 ever made:

02-23-2006	#1
Demps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Niceville Posts: 1,000	Windshield Delamination There are some very smart folks here that have some very good contacts. Here's a question to ponder: What is causing the windshields to delaminate? Does the UV film have an adhesive that is breaking down? How was the glass formed around both sides? Some have delam on the top, some have streaks and some have all. Every once in a while you see one without delam--at least not very noticeable. Is it a matter of when not if? Is there a way to seal/reseal the glass to fix it? Why can't we (with all our resourses) get some more made? We can get headers, exhaust and even still tires (hold your breath) made for the limited production GM Bastard-child. How can a major industrial giant abandon a production car and parts supply only 10 years after production-----Wait they are in bankrupcy. Take care of your customers and they will take car of you. Ted

02-24-2006	#2
We Gone Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,169	Re: Windshield Delamination Why is it the Lumina Vans with the same type of windshield never have the issue... __________________ Steve 1990 Steel Blue/Black #2355 1990 Red/Red #1473 1991 Quasar /Black #118 Sold 1991 Turquoise/Black #766 Parted Out 1993 Yellow/White #179 Sold 1990 Black/Gray #1361 Headers/4:10s Sold

02-24-2006	#3
Z Factor Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: S. Florida Posts: 2,647	Re: Windshield Delamination I spoke with a gentleman from the commercial side of what was LOF, who has been with them for decades. He speculated it was in the prep work prior to sealing the windshield. Probably large batches of them were not properly prepared, hence the amount of delaminating windshields we are seeing today. There are in fact some perfect windshields, I am lucky enough to have one on my 1990, and I hope it stays that way. Still, I would like to find a solution to the problem so many of us are experiencing. When I spoke to different people within the company, they seemed ambivalent to our issue. I am friends with an attorney locally who lives for large class actions suits, and he made it sound like an uphill battle (read small profit motivation). I also called several different manufactures about producing a similar windshield, but there was no interest. All this is not to say something cannot be done, but it does not look promising. BTW- Don't tell anyone I have an attorney for a friend.

02-27-2006	#6
blackjack Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: north of montreal Posts: 510	Re: Windshield Delamination i suppose the process is irreversible...how bad can it become? somebody has pictures of a bad one?mine has started around the edges...i guess to have those large companies interested,we need to order a thousand windshields minimum,with a milion dollars deposit... blackjack 91/1735