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tccrab · 01-20-2011

Girlfriend passed with flying colors today:

2011 Smog Limits.............Measured
15mph
HC (ppm) Max: 77............48
CO (%) Max: 0.50...........0.08
NOx (ppm) Max: 541.........333
25mph
HC (ppm) Max: 59...........26
CO(%) Max: 0.59...........0.05
NOx (ppm) Max: 498..........344

2009 Smog Limits:............Measured
15mph
HC (ppm) Max: 110............40
CO (%) Max: 0.77.............0.07
NOx (ppm) Max: 772...........467
25mph
HC (ppm) Max: 85.............14
CO(%) Max: 0.59.............0.04
NOx (ppm) Max: 711............359

11,900 miles, flowmaster exhaust & Haibec chip.

TomC
"Crabs

zr1don · 01-20-2011

Tom,
I am trying to get my 90 Z to pass CA smog, are you running stock manifolds and cats?

tccrab · 01-20-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by zr1don

Tom,
I am trying to get my 90 Z to pass CA smog, are you running stock manifolds and cats?

Yup.

Flowmaster cat back exhaust system and Haibec prom installed after prior smog.
Has fresh plugs, recent oil change, and fairly new injectors (installed 3 years ago but only 1000 miles or so on them) and a tank full of Chevron's best.
Just prior to smog I drove the car about 18-20 miles at freeway speeds or better

in 3rd and 4 gear, getting her nice and hot.

Tom

Paul Workman · 01-20-2011

Congratz!

Now try not to have too much fun and post some pics (or a video) of you driving on a twisty mountain road. That way those of us that are snow bound can live vicariously - at least until March or April!

P.

GOLDCYLON · 01-20-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by zr1don

Tom,
I am trying to get my 90 Z to pass CA smog, are you running stock manifolds and cats?

You will never get it to pass without the Stock cats in (AZ or CA). I have tried the HiFlow Random Techs and Magna Flos with Jeal headers and no dice. Just a sniffer test fine but once it gets worked out on the treadmill your toast.

tccrab · 01-20-2011

My gut feeling is that a good running stock LT5 should have no problems passing the California Smog Nazis.
Even a good running reasonably modified LT5 shouldn't have too many problems passing.
Again, the operative words are "Good Running".
A bored and stroked 427 running 703hp, hmmm.... probably not.
(congrats, it's a Monster!!!).
Even cars with headers and aftermarket cats, if they're the right cats and the LT5 is running right, it really shouldn't be that much of a problem.

All bets are off if it's got leaky injectors, bad coils, old spark plugs, or big vacuum leaks in the top end.

TomC
'Crabs

GOLDCYLON · 01-20-2011

Mine would not pass. New Aftermarket hiflow cats, New coils, new injectors, new plugs, new wires, new Secondary tubing and actuators, plenum gaskets etc. It was running great and I ran the snot out of it to make sure it was warmed up. It was my belief these new stainless hi flow cats disipate the heat too fast and the emissions dont burn correctly. Im am sure if you placed a generic regular syle replacement cat under there it probablly would pass. I am only relating my issues in AZ with these Hi flow stainless cats. It will never pass the treadmill roller test undriving load.

tccrab · 01-20-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON

Mine would not pass. New Aftermarket hiflow cats, New coils, new injectors, new plugs, new wires, new Secondary tubing and actuators, plenum gaskets etc. It was running great and I ran the snot out of it to make sure it was warmed up. It was my belief these new stainless hi flow cats disipate the heat too fast and the emissions dont burn correctly. Im am sure if you placed a generic regular syle replacement cat under there it probablly would pass. I am only relating my issues in AZ with these Hi flow stainless cats. It will never pass the treadmill roller test undriving load.

Darryl:

I don't think I've seen your #'s, what was out and by how much?

Tom

rhipsher · 01-20-2011

Mine has 92k miles on it and ran even cleaner than that.

tccrab · 01-20-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhipsher

Mine has 92k miles on it and ran even cleaner than that.

Rick:

What mods do you have on yours?

TomC
'Crabs

01-20-2011	#1
tccrab Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Folsom CA Posts: 1,655	Cali Smog Nazi's can kiss my big wide ZR1 As... Girlfriend passed with flying colors today: 2011 Smog Limits.............Measured 15mph HC (ppm) Max: 77............48 CO (%) Max: 0.50...........0.08 NOx (ppm) Max: 541.........333 25mph HC (ppm) Max: 59...........26 CO(%) Max: 0.59...........0.05 NOx (ppm) Max: 498..........344 2009 Smog Limits:............Measured 15mph HC (ppm) Max: 110............40 CO (%) Max: 0.77.............0.07 NOx (ppm) Max: 772...........467 25mph HC (ppm) Max: 85.............14 CO(%) Max: 0.59.............0.04 NOx (ppm) Max: 711............359 11,900 miles, flowmaster exhaust & Haibec chip. TomC "Crabs __________________ TomC '90ZR1 #792 Honorary Pirate [B]If it ain't FUN, you're doing something terribly WRONG. [/B] Last edited by tccrab; 01-20-2011 at 12:36 AM.

01-20-2011	#2
zr1don Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 92	Re: Cali Smog Nazi's can kiss my big wide ZR1 As... Tom, I am trying to get my 90 Z to pass CA smog, are you running stock manifolds and cats?

01-20-2011	#4
Paul Workman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri Posts: 6,493	Re: Cali Smog Nazi's can kiss my big wide ZR1 As... Congratz! Now try not to have too much fun and post some pics (or a video) of you driving on a twisty mountain road. That way those of us that are snow bound can live vicariously - at least until March or April! P. __________________ Good carz, good food, good friendz = the best of timez! 90 #1202 "FBI" top end ported & relieved Cam timing by "Pete the Greek" Sans secondaries Chip & dyno tuning by Haibeck Automotive SW headers, X-pipe, MF muffs Former Secretary, ZR-1 Net Registry

01-20-2011	#6
tccrab Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Folsom CA Posts: 1,655	Re: Cali Smog Nazi's can kiss my big wide ZR1 As... My gut feeling is that a good running stock LT5 should have no problems passing the California Smog Nazis. Even a good running reasonably modified LT5 shouldn't have too many problems passing. Again, the operative words are "Good Running". A bored and stroked 427 running 703hp, hmmm.... probably not. (congrats, it's a Monster!!!). Even cars with headers and aftermarket cats, if they're the right cats and the LT5 is running right, it really shouldn't be that much of a problem. All bets are off if it's got leaky injectors, bad coils, old spark plugs, or big vacuum leaks in the top end. TomC 'Crabs __________________ TomC '90ZR1 #792 Honorary Pirate [B]If it ain't FUN, you're doing something terribly WRONG. [/B]

01-20-2011	#7
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,155	Re: Cali Smog Nazi's can kiss my big wide ZR1 As... Mine would not pass. New Aftermarket hiflow cats, New coils, new injectors, new plugs, new wires, new Secondary tubing and actuators, plenum gaskets etc. It was running great and I ran the snot out of it to make sure it was warmed up. It was my belief these new stainless hi flow cats disipate the heat too fast and the emissions dont burn correctly. Im am sure if you placed a generic regular syle replacement cat under there it probablly would pass. I am only relating my issues in AZ with these Hi flow stainless cats. It will never pass the treadmill roller test undriving load. __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

01-20-2011	#9
rhipsher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston 90 Red ZR-1 Posts: 2,320	Re: Cali Smog Nazi's can kiss my big wide ZR1 As... Mine has 92k miles on it and ran even cleaner than that.