ATTENTION ALERT FOR 90-92 ZR-1's -- MAY BE BAD FOR 93-95 AS WELL - SEMA ALERT

[WB9MCW]

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SEMA Action Network (SAN)
Date sent 09/15/2010 02:09:30 pm
Subject: Urgent Regulatory Alert

URGENT REGULATORY ALERT

EPA Threatens to Raise Ethanol Content in Gasoline

Under pressure from ethanol producers to raise the ethanol content in gasoline, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) could issue a decision later this month allowing the use of E15 in late-model cars. It could permit the use in other cars at a later date. The SEMA Action Network (SAN) opposes the shift from E10 to E15 due to concerns that the additional content will harm automobiles of all ages, including special interest collector and historic vehicles. To date, there is a lack of conclusive information regarding E15?s effect on engines of different model years. In addition to the potential harm of E15 on engine components, the EPA has no procedure in place to ensure misfueling does not occur or any plan for ensuring regular gasoline continues to be available for older vehicles. The SAN?s concerns are shared by a number of other industry organizations.

We Urge You to Ask President Obama (Contact Information Below) to Stop the EPA from Raising the Ethanol Content in Gasoline


Dear Mr. President:

I strongly urge you to stop the Environmental Protection Agency from raising the amount of ethanol in gasoline from today?s 10 percent (E10) to 15 percent (E15) ? a 50 percent increase.

* The EPA is under pressure from some corporate ethanol supporters to raise the rates in order to boost sales. However, scientific studies have not yet been completed on concerns that the added content could harm auto parts of all ages.
* When ethanol levels are raised, engines react differently and in a potentially dangerous way. Ethanol causes engines to burn hotter which could lead to premature engine and equipment failure. For newer cars, the ?check engine? light may appear unnecessarily or too late to avoid costly repairs.
* Ethanol also increases water formation in the fuel system, especially when the vehicle sits over a period of time. Under these conditions, formic acid is created which corrodes metals, plastics and rubber. This can lead to engine/parts failures and, potentially, safety hazards.
* If the EPA approves E15, it will state that the increased ethanol is only for recent model cars. However, once a new fuel mix enters the gasoline supply system, it will inevitably end up in the wrong engines.
* Gasoline without any ethanol may simply disappear from the marketplace for millions of Americans with older cars or special interest collector and historic vehicles. E10 has already made this a reality in many areas of the country.
* The EPA should wait until all of the scientific research is complete. There is no need for a rush to judgment.

DON?T DELAY! Please contact President Obama at http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Please e-mail a copy of your letter to Steve McDonald at stevem@sema.org. Thank you for your assistance.

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IF THE E10 @ 10% IS BAD FOR INJECTORS NOW WHAT WILL A 50% INCREASE TO E15 RESULT IN ???

[rhipsher]

Dude Obama wants us to go back to living in grass huts and ride donkeys. He doesn't give a rats azz what the people want. If it were totally up to him he'd round up all our cars and dump them 10 miles out in the ocean to make a habitat for fish to live in. If our cars won't run when the ethinol level gets to high then I'll convert mine to run on propane. F him!

[dallas]

It's easy to tell the peons of the country what they can drive or what they can use for fuel....when you're being chauffeured and flown everywhere in luxury.

[xlr8nflorida]

Originally Posted by dallas

It's easy to tell the peons of the country what they can drive or what they can use for fuel....when you're being chauffeured and flown everywhere in luxury.

15% ethanol is total BS and not safe.

I don't run any ethanol in my ZR-1.

Original injectors that still GIT-R-Done!

[Z51JEFF]

Yea,you guys keep bitchin and moanin all the while the morons will push this right on through.Anybody bother to send the email?I did,will it do any good,who knows.

[carter200]

I sent the email, too

[scholtmj]

Originally Posted by Z51JEFF

Yea,you guys keep bitchin and moanin all the while the morons will push this right on through.Anybody bother to send the email?I did,will it do any good,who knows.

The Sema Action Network sent out a similar email when cash for clunkers was going on. I sent emails to all the Michigan reps, senators, even Pelosi and so on.

[WB9MCW]

Originally Posted by xlr8nflorida

15% ethanol is total BS and not safe.

I don't run any ethanol in my ZR-1.

Original injectors that still GIT-R-Done!

Being in one of the CORN States there are no more stations left with all real gas here that I know of since BP bought out Standard Oil.

Where in FL. are you so lucky as to get real gas at still?

I am still on my orig inj's but I am not so sure for how much longer being a 92 as well.

[Kevin]

this has to be a ploy by the oil companies, although they could be in bed with the corn lobby....more ethanol = less mpg

[Aurora40]

Originally Posted by Kevin

this has to be a ploy by the oil companies, although they could be in bed with the corn lobby....more ethanol = less mpg

Why would the oil companies want you to run E15?

Also, I believe the blame for this still goes back to W. In the 2005 energy bill, there is a requirement for gasoline to be sold with a certain amount of "renewable" energy, aka ethanol.


Calendar year: .................................................. ......Applicable
.................................................. .............................volume of
.................................................. .............................renewable
.................................................. .............................fuel
.................................................. .............................(in billions of
.................................................. .............................gallons):

2006 .................................................. .................... 4.0
2007 .................................................. .................... 4.7
2008 .................................................. .................... 5.4
2009 .................................................. .................... 6.1
2010 .................................................. .................... 6.8
2011 .................................................. .................... 7.4
2012 .................................................. .................... 7.5

from pg 477: http://www.epa.gov/oust/fedlaws/publ_109-058.pdf

This is why you saw E10 become so common year-round, whereas before it was generally only in "high density" areas and at certain times of year (usually summer) as part of the EPA's reformulated gasoline (RFG) program. Ethanol is an oxygenate, like MTBE, except MTBE has fallen out of favor for RFGs because apparently it can contaminate ground water.

Anyway, in order to meet those targets for "renewable" fuel sold with gasoline, E10 became pretty much standard everywhere. However, each year the target ramps up. Once we are all using E10, how do you reach the next target level? Gasoline consumption doesn't rise at the rate the amount specified in that chart. Is E15 the next step? I sure as hell hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Interestingly, RFG became a thing as part of the 1990 Clean Air Act, which passed under a different President Bush.

I am no Obama or Pelosi fan, in fact I'm 180-degrees opposite. But this kind of crap doesn't just come from uber-lefty lunatics. Take something like the Clean Air Act, it probably seemed somewhat innocuous at the time, but now we are facing a world where the gasoline we are sold can kill our cars. Why is any of this stuff within the realm of regulation by the federal government? As a consumer, why can't I just buy whatever the hell I want?