The search for DAG. - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

rhipsher · 10-17-2009

The search for this stuff is starting to look like and urban Legend just like the Permabond A136 did. It's something that used to exist but no more. When I go into an automotive parts store and I ask far a wet graphic compound and explain what its for most look at me like I'm from another planet. And the very few that do know what I'm talking about say they used to carry it but not anymore. But everybody seems to carry the dry graphite for key locks. So obviously this is not something that is widely used on cars even though most cars have a throttle body. I'm sure it does exist but it's not something I can get locally. My search continues.

rhipsher · 10-17-2009

Update I call another Oreillys and they said they have a graphite lube that comes in a little tube. So I'm off to check it out. I will let you know my findings and if it's legit I'll post up a picture and the brand.

WVZR-1 · 10-17-2009

I've always thought this was the product. I've first heard about this as a throttle blade sealer on early Pontiac tri-powers.

DAG#213 here: http://coatingsystems.thomasnet.com/...g-213?&seo=110

here's a pdf from the original supplier I believe: http://www.laddresearch.com/SpecSheets/LaddDAG213.pdf

Here's maybe some "similar" products that might accomplish the function: http://coatingsystems.thomasnet.com/...n-2?&forward=1

rhipsher · 10-17-2009

See but even those websites say "Dry film" which is what is available everywhere. Will it work! I don't know. I figured by now some of the ZR-1 eggheads would have chimed in by now.

WVZR-1 · 10-17-2009

The "catch" is the "carrier" which I believe the DAG213 is bonded in an epoxy resin and after application I'm assuming it's "cured" by heat! I doubt an "air dry" would accomplish the cure but if you look at the pdf they mention a flash time between the applications to build the film thickness!

I've a friend who builds/restores Pontiac tri-powers and he might well know more about the product. I've never asked!!

WB9MCW · 10-17-2009

CALLING ALL ZR-1 EGG HEADS

rhipsher · 10-17-2009

See now I just started the car cold and it's idling at 850rpm's but knowing aluminum like I do, when the engine heats up those bores will get bigger by at least .0015 which is probably why this stuff was used. It probably not only acts as a seal but ads a cushion which works even when the bores expand.

10-17-2009	#1
rhipsher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston 90 Red ZR-1 Posts: 2,320	The search for DAG. The search for this stuff is starting to look like and urban Legend just like the Permabond A136 did. It's something that used to exist but no more. When I go into an automotive parts store and I ask far a wet graphic compound and explain what its for most look at me like I'm from another planet. And the very few that do know what I'm talking about say they used to carry it but not anymore. But everybody seems to carry the dry graphite for key locks. So obviously this is not something that is widely used on cars even though most cars have a throttle body. I'm sure it does exist but it's not something I can get locally. My search continues.

10-17-2009	#3
WVZR-1 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,890	Re: The search for DAG. I've always thought this was the product. I've first heard about this as a throttle blade sealer on early Pontiac tri-powers. DAG#213 here: http://coatingsystems.thomasnet.com/...g-213?&seo=110 here's a pdf from the original supplier I believe: http://www.laddresearch.com/SpecSheets/LaddDAG213.pdf Here's maybe some "similar" products that might accomplish the function: http://coatingsystems.thomasnet.com/...n-2?&forward=1 Last edited by WVZR-1; 10-17-2009 at 06:34 PM.

10-17-2009	#4
rhipsher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston 90 Red ZR-1 Posts: 2,320	Re: The search for DAG. See but even those websites say "Dry film" which is what is available everywhere. Will it work! I don't know. I figured by now some of the ZR-1 eggheads would have chimed in by now.

10-17-2009	#5
WVZR-1 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,890	Re: The search for DAG. The "catch" is the "carrier" which I believe the DAG213 is bonded in an epoxy resin and after application I'm assuming it's "cured" by heat! I doubt an "air dry" would accomplish the cure but if you look at the pdf they mention a flash time between the applications to build the film thickness! I've a friend who builds/restores Pontiac tri-powers and he might well know more about the product. I've never asked!!

10-17-2009	#6
WB9MCW Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: McHenry, Il. Posts: 6,607	Re: The search for DAG. CALLING ALL ZR-1 EGG HEADS __________________ http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...9mcw/SIG-2.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/wb9mcw/vcm.gif "The Budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome will become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead of living on public assistance." - Cicero, 55 BC " We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." - Abraham Lincoln

10-17-2009	#2
rhipsher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston 90 Red ZR-1 Posts: 2,320	Re: The search for DAG. Update I call another Oreillys and they said they have a graphite lube that comes in a little tube. So I'm off to check it out. I will let you know my findings and if it's legit I'll post up a picture and the brand.

10-17-2009	#7
rhipsher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston 90 Red ZR-1 Posts: 2,320	Re: The search for DAG. See now I just started the car cold and it's idling at 850rpm's but knowing aluminum like I do, when the engine heats up those bores will get bigger by at least .0015 which is probably why this stuff was used. It probably not only acts as a seal but ads a cushion which works even when the bores expand.