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Old 06-25-2008   #1
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Default Flywheel Balancing 1992 ZR1

I have recently discovered that there are no weights in the flywheel and there is noticable vibration above 5000 rpms. I have the flywheel out of the car, were the weights meant for balancing only the flywheel or was the balancing performed for the flywheel and engine combined?

Would having the flywheel/clutch balanced alone be sufficient?

Has anyone had there engine and flywheel balanced in the car?

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!!!!

Jerry Dirks
1992 DRM 600 Minnesota
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Old 06-25-2008   #2
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Default Re: Flywheel Balancing 1992 ZR1

Is it the same flywheel that you've had in the car and driven previously? Is your clutch "new"? Is the vibration "new" or you've not driven the car previously? I'll be interested in responses!

I'd be interested in how you accomplished the repair/rebuild/weld or whatever of your transmission case? I hadn't seen you get back to that thread.

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Old 06-25-2008   #3
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Default Re: Flywheel Balancing 1992 ZR1

I am still sorting out the transmission repair. The flywheel was in it since the DRM mods....I think they did not transfer the weights. Clutch is stock. The vib was present before the broken trans.

Since I have the driveline in pieces I thought I would try to remove the vibration that has been present since I bought car last fall.

Thanks for follow up.
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Old 06-26-2008   #4
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Default Re: Flywheel Balancing 1992 ZR1

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I am still sorting out the transmission repair. The flywheel was in it since the DRM mods....I think they did not transfer the weights. Clutch is stock. The vib was present before the broken trans.

Since I have the driveline in pieces I thought I would try to remove the vibration that has been present since I bought car last fall.

Thanks for follow up.
One other item comes to mind, and that is the drive shaft balance. Were the U joints recently changed? I know how difficult it can be to keep those little "needle bearings" in place while installing new U joints; installing them is an art. The FSM goes into some detail, but a drive line company could take your drive shaft and trans yoke and check the balance/rebalance as necessary. That would eliminate that part.

As for balancing the flywheel, it sounds like that too would be something you might want to send to a machine shop and have checked out.

Bottom line: BTDT and balancing that stuff made a huge difference on another project of mine (many moonz ago). From my experience, it is "SOP" to have the FW and pressure plate balanced together whenever a new clutch is installed. The trick is finding a place that can do the work.

Good luck. Let us know what ya come up with!

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Old 06-26-2008   #5
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Default Re: Flywheel Balancing 1992 ZR1

The flywheel and clutch that were in the care b4 the trans breakage were in it for 12 years, 14k miles. The drive shaft is new but the vibration followed engine speed in each gear.

Does anyone know if balancincing the rotating mass, flywheel, clutch, how GM approached the balance issue or should the balance be performed while on the engine crankshaft?

Thanks!
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Old 06-26-2008   #6
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I was curious if the "original" DRM 600 package that I thought was a 368" and included a crankshaft might have the assembly balanced and there likely wouldn't have been weights? Don't know!
I couldn't imagine that critical an "operation" would have been "overlooked"! The balance of the driveshaft is an inexpensive "to do"!
I'd maybe check with DRM on the original build! If doing a new clutch I think most would agree, check the balance. Clutch assembly quality isn't exactly what it used to be! Confirm your "new" clutch is correct also, there's been some mispackaged goods around and assembly problems posted here and also on the other forums! Check the P/P with a machinists straight edge! I'd check the spring "color" if they're colored, if they're not all the same color it's a quick cause for concern!

* I believe the current DRM 600 is a "402"!

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Old 06-26-2008   #7
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Default Re: Flywheel Balancing 1992 ZR1

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Does anyone know if balancincing the rotating mass, flywheel, clutch, how GM approached the balance issue or should the balance be performed while on the engine crankshaft?

Thanks!
Jerry
No...the lt5 is internally balanced meaning the crank/rods/piston were balanced and the balancer and flywheel were not used for the lt5 balancing. The only way the balancer could become out of balance if it was hit or the motor was removed maybe after rippie originally and the balancer slammed into the cross member...so I doubt the crank balancer is out.

If the pilot bearing went out or was damaged in the rear of the crank and car was driven for a while like that you will get a vibration since the front of the tranny shaft sits in it! I did my clutch in my first 90 zr1 and messed the pilot bearing up and it vibrated bad until I removed the tranny again to put a new pilot bearing in the end of the crank and the vibration was totally gone afterwards!
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Old 06-28-2008   #8
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I have recently discovered that there are no weights in the flywheel and there is noticable vibration above 5000 rpms.
Jerry, Ron, brigns up a good question of the driveshaft.

Do you still get the vibration when sitting in neutral and revving the motor up?
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Default Re: Flywheel Balancing 1992 ZR1

There is a technique to doing the half shafts. You have to take one of the caps completely off to get them into place. But there's a little more to it than that. I'm getting ready to do my half shafts in the coming week. Maybe I'll do a "TAH DAH" how to for it.
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