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carter200 · 11-04-2008

Grab your ankles. When he speaks of change that is all you are gonna have left in your pockets when he gets done with you. Those that wanted change will get a big dose of it very soon. Watch what you wish for

Hammer · 11-05-2008

Those close to me that voted for him still can't tell me what he has in mind for "change". Just that he will "change" things for us. We'll see. If anyone here makes over $200k a year they will be taxed more, you know, spread the wealth around, just like Karl Marx wanted to do.

That's it for me on this, it's over and time will tell.

gbrtng · 11-05-2008

Creeping socialism just got on its feet and began to run. Hold on folks, there's going to be a real mess to clean up after four years of obama lama ding dong.

FU · 11-05-2008

Sad day indeed

11-05-2008

It is truth Obama will face hard job to clean the mess Bush did in 8 years!

I am not telling you that cuz i believe in Obama, I was always "R" and never been "D" , because
some parts of the world need a tough and strong U.S leader to control and deal with it, But...

FYI , most Republican voted to Obama because Bush with his government disappointed them and lie in many cases...So that WAS the CHANGE,by Sending massage: You guys mess with us ,we change you!

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Just Face it guys... No big deal!

P.S. All Politician are Liars , but BUSH was the Biggest Liar

, Still i like him !

tomcat · 11-06-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by HADI-ZR1

It is truth Obama will face hard job to clean the mess Bush did in 8 years!

I am not telling you that cuz i believe in Obama, I was always "R" and never been "D" , because
some parts of the world need a tough and strong U.S leader to control and deal with it, But...

FYI , most Republican voted to Obama because Bush with his government disappointed them and lie in many cases...So that WAS the CHANGE,by Sending massage: You guys mess with us ,we change you!

.
Just Face it guys... No big deal!

P.S. All Politician are Liars , but BUSH was the Biggest Liar

, Still i like him !

Manfred E.....
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XfireZ51 · 11-06-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by HADI-ZR1

It is truth Obama will face hard job to clean the mess Bush did in 8 years!

I am not telling you that cuz i believe in Obama, I was always "R" and never been "D" , because
some parts of the world need a tough and strong U.S leader to control and deal with it, But...

FYI , most Republican voted to Obama because Bush with his government disappointed them and lie in many cases...So that WAS the CHANGE,by Sending massage: You guys mess with us ,we change you!

.
Just Face it guys... No big deal!

P.S. All Politician are Liars , but BUSH was the Biggest Liar

, Still i like him !

Thank you HADI for telling it from a "non American" perspective.

GrayZ · 11-06-2008

* You cannot help the poor, by destroying the rich.

* You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong.

* You cannot bring about prosperity, by discouraging thrift.

* You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer down.

* You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class hatred.

* You cannot build character and courage, by taking away men's
initiative and independence.

* You cannot help men permanently, by doing for them what they
could and should, do for themselves.

Do you recognize the author?

It was Abraham Lincoln

Very, very wise words, written years ago and we still don't get it.....

gbrtng · 11-05-2008

Hadi, your logic is, how shall I say it, challenged.

Aurora40 · 11-06-2008

Saddest day in American history? I think that might be overstating it just a tad...

I think the problem comes when 51% of people realize they can take stuff away from the 49%. The bill of rights should protect you, but when the judicial system is more interested in straining their intellect to reinterpret laws in crazy new ways, that doesn't happen.

I also think the problem is it is accepted that the gov't can take your income. When the 16th amendment went into effect in 1913, the highest tax rate was 7%. Perhaps at the time that seemed "ok". But it opened the door for rates that climbed as high as 90%+. You have no protection. There is nothing that states how much of your income you have a "right" to keep. Now income redistribution is the next step. Though even Bush did that with tax "relief" and rebates, that go disproportionatly to people who paid little in tax in the first place.

Hell, Obama even had a website up where you could punch in your income, and it would compute how much more money he'd give you back than McCain would. How is that different than saying "I'll give you $100 to vote for me"? How can that possibly be legal or acceptable?

Really, how do you fix all that crap? It's not by electing McCain anymore than it is by electing Obama... It sucks all around, and I'd just be happy to vote for someone who won't make it worse. Voting for someone who'd work to fix it seems like a pipe-dream.

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carter200 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,431	This is truely the saddest day in American history!!! Grab your ankles. When he speaks of change that is all you are gonna have left in your pockets when he gets done with you. Those that wanted change will get a big dose of it very soon. Watch what you wish for

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Hammer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ideho Posts: 2,653	Re: This is truely the saddest day in American history!!! Those close to me that voted for him still can't tell me what he has in mind for "change". Just that he will "change" things for us. We'll see. If anyone here makes over $200k a year they will be taxed more, you know, spread the wealth around, just like Karl Marx wanted to do. That's it for me on this, it's over and time will tell. __________________ [I][FONT=Comic Sans MS]John Boyd[/FONT][/I] [I][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1]Ideho[/SIZE][/FONT][/I] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][I]2015 ZL1 [/I][I]Camaro #1121 BLACK/BLACK 6 SPD (540 RWHP)[/I][/SIZE][/FONT] [I][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1]1991 ZR-1 #458 [COLOR=red]RED/[/COLOR][COLOR=black]BLACK 72[/COLOR]k miles ([B][COLOR=red]SOLD[/COLOR][/B]) 1991 ZR-1 #473 [COLOR=red]RED/[/COLOR][COLOR=black]BLACK [/COLOR]37k miles ([B][COLOR=red]SOLD[/COLOR][/B])[/SIZE][/FONT][/I]

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gbrtng Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Antonio area Posts: 1,179	Re: This is truely the saddest day in American history!!! Creeping socialism just got on its feet and began to run. Hold on folks, there's going to be a real mess to clean up after four years of obama lama ding dong. __________________ “Buy the best example of what you want, and pay whatever it takes. That way, you cry only once.” ~ Bruce Meyer

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HADI-ZR1 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: This is truely the saddest day in American history!!! It is truth Obama will face hard job to clean the mess Bush did in 8 years! I am not telling you that cuz i believe in Obama, I was always "R" and never been "D" , because some parts of the world need a tough and strong U.S leader to control and deal with it, But... FYI , most Republican voted to Obama because Bush with his government disappointed them and lie in many cases...So that WAS the CHANGE,by Sending massage: You guys mess with us ,we change you! . Just Face it guys... No big deal! P.S. All Politician are Liars , but BUSH was the Biggest Liar , Still i like him ! Last edited by HADI-ZR1; 11-05-2008 at 01:26 PM.

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GrayZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Innsbrook, Missouri Posts: 1,727	Re: This is truely the saddest day in American history!!! * You cannot help the poor, by destroying the rich. * You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong. * You cannot bring about prosperity, by discouraging thrift. * You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer down. * You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class hatred. * You cannot build character and courage, by taking away men's initiative and independence. * You cannot help men permanently, by doing for them what they could and should, do for themselves. Do you recognize the author? It was Abraham Lincoln Very, very wise words, written years ago and we still don't get it.....

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Aurora40 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 2,713	Re: This is truely the saddest day in American history!!! Saddest day in American history? I think that might be overstating it just a tad... I think the problem comes when 51% of people realize they can take stuff away from the 49%. The bill of rights should protect you, but when the judicial system is more interested in straining their intellect to reinterpret laws in crazy new ways, that doesn't happen. I also think the problem is it is accepted that the gov't can take your income. When the 16th amendment went into effect in 1913, the highest tax rate was 7%. Perhaps at the time that seemed "ok". But it opened the door for rates that climbed as high as 90%+. You have no protection. There is nothing that states how much of your income you have a "right" to keep. Now income redistribution is the next step. Though even Bush did that with tax "relief" and rebates, that go disproportionatly to people who paid little in tax in the first place. Hell, Obama even had a website up where you could punch in your income, and it would compute how much more money he'd give you back than McCain would. How is that different than saying "I'll give you $100 to vote for me"? How can that possibly be legal or acceptable? Really, how do you fix all that crap? It's not by electing McCain anymore than it is by electing Obama... It sucks all around, and I'd just be happy to vote for someone who won't make it worse. Voting for someone who'd work to fix it seems like a pipe-dream. __________________ Bob Saveland Former owner of #2517 [IMG]http://a.random-image.net/aurora40/vette.jpg[/img]