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Old 05-19-2024   #1
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Default Code 61 with secondary system removed?

My 1994 has the secondaries system deleted, yet still popped a code 61. I'll dig through my FSM, but any ideas on what to look for? I cleared it and will see if it comes back. Thank you.

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Old 05-20-2024   #2
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Default Re: Code 61 with secondary system removed?

Have you changed the PROM or the BIN in the PROM or is is this how you got it?
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Old 05-20-2024   #3
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Default Re: Code 61 with secondary system removed?

How I got it. I read the program off it for safe keeping but haven't changed anything yet.
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Old 05-20-2024   #4
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I confirmed in TunerPro both...

"Port Throttle System Diag. (Error 61)"
"Port Throttle Vacuum Dag. (Error 56)"

Are both enabled in the BIN. Should one or both have been disabled?


The tables...

"Port Throttle Opening Point vs. RPM"
"Port Throttle Closing Point vs. RPM"


.... are both entirely set to 0% TPS, which looks correct given the secondaries are removed.
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Old 05-22-2024   #5
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Default Re: Code 61 with secondary system removed?

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I confirmed in TunerPro both...

Are both enabled in the BIN. Should one or both have been disabled?

56 and 61 should both be disabled (not selected) if your secondaries were deleted.
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Old 05-20-2024   #6
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Default Re: Code 61 with secondary system removed?

scorp, those diagnostics are looking for min and max voltages at the port throttle vacuum sensor. They need to be changed if you have removed throttles and vac sensor.
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Old 05-30-2024   #7
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Default Re: Code 61 with secondary system removed?

Has your prom chip been reprogrammed for secondary delete by Marc Heibeck?
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Old 05-30-2024   #8
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Has your prom chip been reprogrammed for secondary delete by Marc Heibeck?
Not by Marc, no. I suspect this was just a simple miss by the last person to tune it as they're definitely familiar with secondary deletes. The secondary port open/closed table is zero'd out, but these flags were missed.

I'll burn a new one and see how it does. Waiting on USPS to deliver a few more EEPROMs as I can't find my stash.
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Old 05-30-2024   #9
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I recommend not just turning the flags off but changing the voltage thresholds themselves also. There is a max vac for open and min for close, if I recall . I don?t have my notes right now though.


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Here's the values.
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