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08-26-2009 | #1 |
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A hurt valve...
Dr. Pete and his assistant Egore (aka AL) pulled my heads apart and discovered one of the exhaust valves had (for lack of a better description) an evacuation of material about 1/2" long and crossing the big angle of the valve.
Cleaning the top of the piston showed no signs of ingesting anything that Pete and I could see. I didn't have my camera with me, but here is where it is. Pete's going to take it to the machinist and see what he thinks. It is a total mystery, at this point. But! More later. P.
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Good carz, good food, good friendz = the best of timez! 90 #1202 "FBI" top end ported & relieved Cam timing by "Pete the Greek" Sans secondaries Chip & dyno tuning by Haibeck Automotive SW headers, X-pipe, MF muffs Former Secretary, ZR-1 Net Registry |
08-26-2009 | #2 |
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Re: A hurt valve...
Weird! Any damage to the valve seat?
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08-26-2009 | #3 |
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Re: A hurt valve...
Paul,
just a thought, but is it possible debris from your porting work made its way into the cylinder and damaged the valve? http://www.zr1netregistry.com/forum/...ead.php?t=8027 Todd |
08-26-2009 | #4 |
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Re: A hurt valve...
Paul,
Was it #8 cylinder? Todd, A bit prophetic, huh! Last edited by XfireZ51; 08-26-2009 at 09:25 AM. |
08-26-2009 | #5 |
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Re: A hurt valve...
Yes it was #8.
I really don't think it's the little aluminum flakes that done it. Took the valve to the machinist he mentioned it looks like it was a bad valve job from the get go and thru the years it ate up the valve. Pete
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Re: A hurt valve...
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Truth be known, from day one when I bought the car in Nov of 07, it had a little bit of a rough idle - like it was maybe an injector. I drove the car over 600 miles after reinstalling the ported plenum, and it ran strong. It ran strong when I put it up on jacks to install the new headers, etc. I first noticed a "chit-chit-chit" sound the very instant I fired it up with the new headers. I immediately suspected a header bolt or two had not been torqued down properly, but no such luck. So, in the back of my mind, I kinda have to wonder if I wasn't just now discovering the problem - perhaps made worse not by the added HP and heat that goes with it. Looking at the blemish on the valve, it almost looks like someone took a grinder and bumped the bevel on the valve. The seat appears on cursory inspection to be OK. So, the mechanic's comment about possibly a bad valve job somewhere in the car's past, might not be too far off the mark! Whatever...Screw it! Now that the heads are off, I'm gonna finish the porting, Pete's gonna help with getting the valves ground etc, and do the FBI thing...go racing!! I just hope I can squeeze it all in before Sept 26! P.
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08-26-2009 | #7 |
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Re: A hurt valve...
Not that I could really feel. I ran the edge of my fingernail around the seat, but didn't catch on anything nor did I happen to sense any irregularities. The light could have been better, I suppose. Best I could see, it looked OK.
P.
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Good carz, good food, good friendz = the best of timez! 90 #1202 "FBI" top end ported & relieved Cam timing by "Pete the Greek" Sans secondaries Chip & dyno tuning by Haibeck Automotive SW headers, X-pipe, MF muffs Former Secretary, ZR-1 Net Registry |
08-26-2009 | #8 |
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Re: A hurt valve...
Given the possibility of a bad valve job, will you be checking all valves?
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Re: A hurt valve...
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I've never done head porting before. But, I have taken the measurements off of Kevin's heads which were originally CNC'ed from Pete's heads. (I coulda taken some pictures, but then Pete would have to kill me if I posted them)...Pretty interesting stuff!! (No wonder that 350 of his is such a killer!! Some real "FBI" stuff!! ) Well, wish me luck! P.
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Good carz, good food, good friendz = the best of timez! 90 #1202 "FBI" top end ported & relieved Cam timing by "Pete the Greek" Sans secondaries Chip & dyno tuning by Haibeck Automotive SW headers, X-pipe, MF muffs Former Secretary, ZR-1 Net Registry |
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08-28-2009 | #10 |
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Re: A hurt valve...
You gonna do cams too Paul?
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