Lumbar bladder question

[KILLSHOTS]

I looked on the scoring sheets on the NCRS website, and I see that they clearly look for functionality of the seat switches and adjustments, but it doesn't mention anything about the lumbar bags. Can anybody who's had his car Flighted confirm for me whether they care about the bags being able to inflate and hold air? I'm wondering how many cars there are out there whose original bags could possibly hold air?????


Thanks!

[Mystic ZR-1]

They'll definitely check out the lumbar air bags.
And, make sure your rear hatch goes ALL the way up by itself...
Good luck on that one....
Don't forget to ask how many ZR-1s have received Top Flights

[DRM500RUBYZR-1]

Originally Posted by Mystic ZR-1

They'll definitely check out the lumbar air bags.
And, make sure your rear hatch goes ALL the way up by itself...
Good luck on that one....
Don't forget to ask how many ZR-1s have received Top Flights

Absolutely correct on all counts.
They check for pump operation and that it holds air.
and don't forget the glove compartment door has to pop up on it's own.
and 1,000 other crazy things.
Marty

[KILLSHOTS]

Thanks guys. Crazy thing about the bladders. I mean, I wonder how many 28 year old Corvettes (even ones with only 400 miles) have bladders that hold air? I'm assuming that any car with working bags has had the seats torn apart at least once for replacement.

[Mystic ZR-1]

Oil up the latches on the storage compartments behind the seats.
They expect them to latch when dropped from about 6 inches
Also, know all the ins & outs of running the radio etc.
They also expect the CD player to work including ejecting the CD
One of my Bride's CDs has been in mine for years, and she hasn't forgotten about it....☹️

[KILLSHOTS]

Thanks for the tips, but haven't even bought the car yet. Still in the due diligence phase. If I buy it, the goal will be to perfect its flaws and have it Top Flighted, but my net cost has to be below a certain point or it just doesn't make sense to pull the trigger; I'm neither a dealer nor a big risk-taker.

Thanks again.

[-=Jeff=-]

yeah the early cars (pre-94) the bladders usually dry out and become several pieces..

I am sure you could fit the 94-96 bladders in there, for functionality.

Marty, how far up does the glove box door need to pop? curious on that one

[DRM500RUBYZR-1]

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=-

yeah the early cars (pre-94) the bladders usually dry out and become several pieces..

I am sure you could fit the 94-96 bladders in there, for functionality.

Marty, how far up does the glove box door need to pop? curious on that one

The lid needs to fully extend open on it's own once it has been released, as I recall.
The drivers side W/S wiper must park correctly and yet not come in contact with the molding at the end of it's travel.


Now, it is also good to remember that the car MUST score a 94% or better to earn a Top Flight. Said differently, you can lose up to 270 of your 4500 points and still Top Flight. Further pursuits require a 97.5 minimum score, but even so, you could lose 112.5 points and still surpass the threshold.
I say that as a reminder not EVRYTHING has to be original and perfect.
My car was a DRM500 conversion done back in 1994. I left my coil-overs on, my springs off, my thicker stabilizer bars remained on, as did drilled and slotted rotors, shifter, Hurst knob, braided ss brake lines, other Rippie brake and suspension mods and more.
It was kind of funny when one of the judges asked where the springs were.
The first time none of us knew where to find the VIN derivative on the LT-5 block.
I even refused to remove the "Objects in Mirror are Losing" lettering from the OSRV mirrors or the minimum 93 Octane put on there by DRM, taking the small deducts instead.


So it depends what you want. If you want 99.9 you will need an original battery, correctly dated tires, valve-stem caps etc, etc,
If you want "Top Flight", you just need to properly manage your deductions.
I usually suggest doing a close by chapter meet; get judged; get your sheets, then get to work on improving what they found wrong.
Then go again, and further your journey and your scores.
Stop when you feel you have accomplished what you set our to do.


The goal is to have FUN, not become even more anal retentive or obsessed.


Good luck to all that go for it, but please make it FUN!
Marty

[lfalzarano]

Originally Posted by DRM500RUBYZR-1

The lid needs to fully extend open on it's own once it has been released, as I recall.
The drivers side W/S wiper must park correctly and yet not come in contact with the molding at the end of it's travel.


Now, it is also good to remember that the car MUST score a 94% or better to earn a Top Flight. Said differently, you can lose up to 270 of your 4500 points and still Top Flight. Further pursuits require a 97.5 minimum score, but even so, you could lose 112.5 points and still surpass the threshold.
I say that as a reminder not EVRYTHING has to be original and perfect.
My car was a DRM500 conversion done back in 1994. I left my coil-overs on, my springs off, my thicker stabilizer bars remained on, as did drilled and slotted rotors, shifter, Hurst knob, braided ss brake lines, other Rippie brake and suspension mods and more.
It was kind of funny when one of the judges asked where the springs were.
The first time none of us knew where to find the VIN derivative on the LT-5 block.
I even refused to remove the "Objects in Mirror are Losing" lettering from the OSRV mirrors or the minimum 93 Octane put on there by DRM, taking the small deducts instead.


So it depends what you want. If you want 99.9 you will need an original battery, correctly dated tires, valve-stem caps etc, etc,
If you want "Top Flight", you just need to properly manage your deductions.
I usually suggest doing a close by chapter meet; get judged; get your sheets, then get to work on improving what they found wrong.
Then go again, and further your journey and your scores.
Stop when you feel you have accomplished what you set our to do.


The goal is to have FUN, not become even more anal retentive or obsessed.


Good luck to all that go for it, but please make it FUN!
Marty

The passenger side glove box door needs to be removed and the leatherette re-glued on the top edge, so it opens freely. Use two thin pieces of wood the length of the upper edge, glue the leatherette to the metal, then clamp on the wood on both sides along the top edge.

If the car had a lot of Sun, the foam under deteriorated and glue failed. I’m gluing mine now. It has to sit for 72 hours to cure properly.


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[DRM500RUBYZR-1]

P.S.
I have SEVEN ZR-1's, all 1995's, that are ready for Flight Judging today.
All include the ORIGINAL BATTERY (non-working of course), original tires, and, well let's just say EVERYTHING will score 100% for Originality, and just about the same for condition.
Serviced, with all PM complete.
Most with only a few hundred miles!
Turn Key Top Flight or Bloomington Gold.
Call for latest colors.


Marty

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