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02-05-2018 | #1 |
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When to shift/set shift light?
Experimenting a bit, I discovered that my shift light might be set a little high (or maybe my reaction time is waning...NAH!). I got better times shifting closer to 6800 rpm than at 7200 (shift-light setting).
Short story: I came across an article discussing this very topic. Open for discussion: (what the hey...its below zero in my garage and there's snow and salt on the roads! I'm going crazy!) Anywayz... author - a physics guru - recommended shifting up at the point where the descending engine power in the lower gear is equal to the ascending power in the next higher gear, i.e., maintaining MAX AVERAGE ENGINE POWER** was the drift. **except in one case where wheel torque after the upshift would result in a reduction of wheel torque in spite of engine torque being higher (due to overdrive gearing, in this case).The "test mule" in this case is not a ZR-1, but the concepts are transferable, no? Have a look. (And, in fact I MAYBE do have my shift light set too high...AND NO WISE CRACKS ABOUT OLD AGE AND REACTION TIME!!) .
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Re: When to shift/set shift light?
I for one would not be one to make cracks about old age or reaction time, although I might say something about low flying pilots... But on the subject, as I recall Marc H always recommended shifting no higher than about 6,500 rpm as that is about where the LT5 engines normally make their peak power. Little advantage to going higher. Maybe he can chime in. --Bob
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Re: When to shift/set shift light?
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02-05-2018 | #4 |
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Re: When to shift/set shift light?
I don't have a shift light but 6800 seems be about right for me
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02-06-2018 | #5 |
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Re: When to shift/set shift light?
I drive a Heibeck 500. In a recent email exchange, Mark recommended that I set my shift light at 6700 because of normal/average reaction time. He sets his engines "red line" at 7300. He also said that the stock system "red lines" at 7100.
For what it is worth.
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Re: When to shift/set shift light?
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Sounds about right, except do not forget to make the RPM adjustments required by the Society of Physiological Ergonomically Triumphant Life Experienced Pragmatic Realistic Racers Of America. Their theorem, repeatedly proven and loosely stated, suggests subtracting 21.7823869 RPM for every year of attained age beyond 50 years old, excepting for leap years, when you must make an additional deduction 0f 0.0000004357612. I have found this theorem to work quite well. Marty |
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Re: When to shift/set shift light?
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I believe there is a “Hurst shifter” multiplier to take into account. However, in the case of an “older” driver, the shorter shift length is effectively negated by the diminished muscle mass of the elderly.
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Re: When to shift/set shift light?
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Indeed! I almost switched back to the longer shifter to gain back the added leverage to compensate. As a young drag racer, I began to leave upon seeing the last yellow, rather than waiting for green. As the years have passed, I have moved up a light or two. Lately, I have been thinking that at the rate things are going, I may soon leave upon the illumination of the "Staged" light. Marty |
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02-06-2018 | #9 |
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Re: When to shift/set shift light?
Question??
Did Marc happen to say what he sets the shift light at on his 500 set-up, or does he let it stay stock... If so what is the stock shift light set at?
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02-07-2018 | #10 |
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Re: When to shift/set shift light?
I would think you want to shift a couple hundred after max hp, so you land a couple hundred below. Making your average......max hp.
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