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Old 04-09-2017   #1
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Default Intermittent Full Power Mode

Hi All,

Looking to get some help on an intermittent issue (91 ZR-1) I'm having with the full power light going out on me.

Light will go out on me occasionally, although even when it's on doesn't feel like my secondaries are kicking in sometimes.

So far I've tested the switch, manually actuated the secondaries, installed a new vacuum pump and tested for leaks.

If the power light goes out is it tied into the permissives for the secondary actuation, coolant/oil temp etc. and is this what’s causing my light to go out occasionally?

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Old 04-09-2017   #2
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Default Re: Intermittent Full Power Mode

Why do you even have a "Full Power" light on a 1991? I thought it was only there on 1990s...
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Old 04-09-2017   #3
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Why do you even have a "Full Power" light on a 1991? I thought it was only there on 1990s...
You are correct the "Full Engine Power" light only comes on for the 90 Model year in the Drivers Information Center (DIC) however the full engine power script still remains in the DIC however has no light bulb for it in the 91 and up models.

I believe the OP is referring to the green LED next to his power key ? Are you getting any Service Engine Soon codes? Have you scanned the car for codes?

If your car is displaying any SES codes it won't go into full power mode
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Old 04-10-2017   #4
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Default Re: Intermittent Full Power Mode

Some time ago I encountered that problem. If the green light is not on, the secondary port throttles will not be enabled.

I replaced the key assembly and the problem did not recur. After the car ran correctly for a few weeks I reinstalled the original key assembly to confirm that the key assembly was defective. The problem did not return. Was there a resistive connection on one of the two cable connectors? You could try unplugging the cables and reconnecting them. It's easy to do.
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Some time ago I encountered that problem. If the green light is not on, the secondary port throttles will not be enabled.

I replaced the key assembly and the problem did not recur. After the car ran correctly for a few weeks I reinstalled the original key assembly to confirm that the key assembly was defective. The problem did not return. Was there a resistive connection on one of the two cable connectors? You could try unplugging the cables and reconnecting them. It's easy to do.
Kevin successfully reconditioned the Full Power Key as I also did......
See item #2 CMHSL LED, Full Power Key and Alternator Pulley

Using needle nose pliers I bent the "blades" shown in red to their new position shown in yellow (the bending taking place at point A and point B). This allows the cam of the switch to fully contact the yellow "blades" while fully closing the silver contacts located in the top right corner of the photo of the Full Power Switch.

The original position of the "blades" shown in red actually did not stay in contact with the cam requiring jiggling the switch back and forth until contact was made of the cam with the "blades". Then vibration would break that contact and you have a non working Power Switch or intermittent working Power Switch in which the silver contacts on the top right would not stay fully closed. You could feel that the Power Key was loose with no resistance in the Full Power Mode indicating there was no contact with the "blades".

I used a bit of white grease on the cam and cam pin.


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Old 04-10-2017   #6
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Default Re: Intermittent Full Power Mode

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Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON View Post
You are correct the "Full Engine Power" light only comes on for the 90 Model year in the Drivers Information Center (DIC) however the full engine power script still remains in the DIC however has no light bulb for it in the 91 and up models.

I believe the OP is referring to the green LED next to his power key ? Are you getting any Service Engine Soon codes? Have you scanned the car for codes?

If your car is displaying any SES codes it won't go into full power mode
That's correct I'm referring to the green LED next to power switch. I meant to add in my original post no SES light or codes.

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Originally Posted by Marc Haibeck View Post
Some time ago I encountered that problem. If the green light is not on, the secondary port throttles will not be enabled.

I replaced the key assembly and the problem did not recur. After the car ran correctly for a few weeks I reinstalled the original key assembly to confirm that the key assembly was defective. The problem did not return. Was there a resistive connection on one of the two cable connectors? You could try unplugging the cables and reconnecting them. It's easy to do.
I pulled the key apart last night checked connections and redid solder joints. I'll test later today to see if it resolved issue.

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Kevin successfully reconditioned the Full Power Key as I also did......
See item #2 CMHSL LED, Full Power Key and Alternator Pulley

Using needle nose pliers I bent the "blades" shown in red to their new position shown in yellow (the bending taking place at point A and point B). This allows the cam of the switch to fully contact the yellow "blades" while fully closing the silver contacts located in the top right corner of the photo of the Full Power Switch.

The original position of the "blades" shown in red actually did not stay in contact with the cam requiring jiggling the switch back and forth until contact was made of the cam with the "blades". Then vibration would break that contact and you have a non working Power Switch or intermittent working Power Switch in which the silver contacts on the top right would not stay fully closed. You could feel that the Power Key was loose with no resistance in the Full Power Mode indicating there was no contact with the "blades".

I used a bit of white grease on the cam and cam pin.

I actually found this article and my switch is different in that I have contacts inside like a relay. I thought I remember reading somewhere they changed the switch to a momentary in 91?
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