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Old 10-23-2016   #1
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Default ISO Tech1 adapter 3000053 (16 - 12 ALDL)

I've a friend with a '95 ParkAve Buick and I need this adapter to do some checks for him. The car is OBD1 but has OBD2 connector. I'm quite sure my Tech2 won't do OBD1(on the 16 pin ALDL) and I've got it "on loan" to a fellow that's not close to me anyway.

Someone in NOVA? I might like to "borrow" if I could.

There's a couple dealers in the area that might have and I buy from so Monday I'll likely attempt to have a conversation. If they have, they actually might likely NOT be able to put their "hands on it".

Buy? I might to complete the Tech1 package I have.

Trade? I've many cartridges for the Tech1
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Old 10-23-2016   #2
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Default Re: ISO Tech1 adapter 3000053 (16 - 12 ALDL)

like this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-Tech-1-OB...-/272400956455
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Old 10-23-2016   #3
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No that's a 16/24 adapter of some sorts. I believe that's the required device/adapter cable etc required to do TRUE OBD2 cars with the Tech1

Needs to be this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KENT-MOORE-T...429027&vxp=mtr

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Old 10-24-2016   #4
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Default Re: ISO Tech1 adapter 3000053 (16 - 12 ALDL)

Let me check my Tech1A case for the adapter, and I'll mail it along with the DERM module you sent me. In a few weeks I'm picking up a new Tech1A that has every adapter & cartridge...hopefully it has this P/N.
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Old 10-24-2016   #5
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Let me check my Tech1A case for the adapter, and I'll mail it along with the DERM module you sent me. In a few weeks I'm picking up a new Tech1A that has every adapter & cartridge...hopefully it has this P/N.
Good morning - I appreciate your looking. If you do I'll use and return if your newer purchase doesn't include it.

This fellows Park Avenue has been somewhat of an adventure. The last time he had it in a shop they had it for 2 weeks and couldn't get a crank. I was sure it was a VATS failure after I spoke to him and I went to the shop with my VATS Interrogator expecting to undo the 2 pin connector, plug in my Interrogator and crank the car. Maybe in '94 or so on many GM's the pins were added to a multi-pin bulkhead style connector and that was a disappointment. I was so sure it was the failure I told the shop to cut the wires and proceed. They wanted to do a several hundred $$$ fix. I ended up driving 40+ miles to get the resistors (string of three), solder and 3/32 heat shrink and showed the shop how to accomplish the fix.

To use my Interrogator I would have needed to use this adapter

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kent-Moore-T...763558&vxp=mtr

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Old 10-24-2016   #6
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Sorry, I don't have that particular adapter.
I checked both Tech1A kits we bought recently, and reviewed the pictures of the new kit I'm getting soon.
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Old 10-25-2016   #7
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The 1994 and 1995 C-body cars were part of GM's early roll-out of OBD2 as were the Corvettes with LT1s.

The ECM in that car has partial OBD2 capability. If your T2 has software supporting MY95, then you should be able to look at whatever OBD2 content is coming over the DLC, but you are correct in that you will NOT be able to view OBD content with a T2 unless it supports it with the right software. If you T2 does support MY95, then I'd try to connect.

If it does not and you have access to a T1, T1A or a MasterTech along with a software cartridge which supports 95 OBD, then, yes, you need that adapter.

I have that adapter, but it's Vetronix PN 02001575. It is unknonwn to me if PN 3000053 and 02001575 are the same part or two different parts.

It's not for sale but might be available for loan if what you've already obtained doesn't work.
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Old 10-25-2016   #8
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The 1994 and 1995 C-body cars were part of GM's early roll-out of OBD2 as were the Corvettes with LT1s.

The ECM in that car has partial OBD2 capability. If your T2 has software supporting MY95, then you should be able to look at whatever OBD2 content is coming over the DLC, but you are correct in that you will NOT be able to view OBD content with a T2 unless it supports it with the right software. If you T2 does support MY95, then I'd try to connect.

If it does not and you have access to a T1, T1A or a MasterTech along with a software cartridge which supports 95 OBD, then, yes, you need that adapter.

I have that adapter, but it's Vetronix PN 02001575. It is unknonwn to me if PN 3000053 and 02001575 are the same part or two different parts.


It's not for sale but might be available for loan if what you've already obtained doesn't work.
Thanks Hib,

My Tech2 is lent to a friend now and isn't an easy retrieval. I last updated the 32M card in '12 - I didn't want to go through the retrieval aggravation if it wouldn't. I don't see any indisputable way to confirm without having the Tech2 in hand, connecting it and see if it will sort through the MENU to '95 and then the K (3800) and lastly give me the option to choose H/C in the model ID.

Daryll's sending the 0053 and with my mass-storage I'll see how much of the information is available. I believe I should maybe be able to get into the BCM also with the 0053. On the side of the 0053 I believe there's a TOGGLE for ECM/PCM and E & C or at least that's the way I've seen it in images but no one has mentioned what the TOGGLE is for. Some just say NO IDEA. I've always thought E & C was Entertainment and Control generally reserved for RPO option content.

I'll post back and if I'm able to put a "hands on" to my Tech2 I'll compare both.

Thanks for the offer of a loan - I thought the Vetronix PN 02001575 was for use on maybe a true OBD2 car for only PCM/ECM content and DTC. I'll post back.

**** Even in the Tech1 MENU I had to first specify that it wasn't an F-body

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WV emailed the shipping tracking number. Heading to the hospital to check on a team mate
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Old 10-25-2016   #10
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I deleted what I felt might be irrelevant to my situation
I ain't interested in the "fabrication" of an adapter that may or may NOT work. I went beyond '95 and into '96 content and even for '96 Corvette CCM diagnostics the 0053 adapter is called for. For '96 Y-body PCM(all OBD2 is PCM) an entirely different component for the Tech1 is specified. I'm interested in exactly what Daryll is sending for the car I'm trying to help a friend with. I'm not just attempting to read codes but to also do some diagnostics once I'm "into" the ECM and maybe even the BCM/CCM of the car.

I get CODE READER - ERASER but that's NOT where I'm attempting to go.

In this CF thread I'm guessing/thinking the "toggle" differentiates between what's maybe required (pin configuration) for ECM/PCM info and maybe CCM/BCM information.

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...post1568131767

3000053 TOGGLE.jpg

Hib - I believe that maybe the 02001575 is required to do SRC on the '94 - '95 with a 16 pin ALDL. Will it do the CCM also? I don't know.

Screm - T100/T-100 seems to be what I always called though a CAMS terminal. Page 13 in this .pdf paper. CAMS I think was Computerized Automotive Maintenance System. I've never updated a MassStrorageCartridge but I'm quite sure this machine was used for them.

http://tomboynton.com/GMnetworks.pdf

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