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AVOID CLUCH MASTER RHINOPAC M0408
Registry... Avoid Rhino pac M0408 as a Clutch Master replacement.
I recently replaced my leaking and still working master cylinder with the above OEM replacement. It would not even go into gear after the R&R. 3 hrs lost !!! Made in China. It was sent back for a refund. I was lucky enough to find a AC/DELCO replacement I bought from Jerry's gaskets I forgot about in my parts crib. I noticed on the factory box made in Taiwan. However this one worked as it should. Just sharing, I realize every mfg has a bad day but this one cost me 3 hrs of labor I will never see again. GC
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07-19-2016 | #2 |
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Re: AVOID CLUCH MASTER RHINOPAC M0408
I haven't heard many success stories from anyone using one of these aftermarket master or slave cylinders. I sent my old ones to Jim Janick and had him rebuild mine.
Rich
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07-19-2016 | #3 |
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Re: AVOID CLUCH MASTER RHINOPAC M0408
He offers a rebuild service ? I was not aware of that
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GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V |
07-19-2016 | #4 |
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Re: AVOID CLUCH MASTER RHINOPAC M0408
Keep chiming in with the good advice, I'm listening.
My daily driver Z has been showing symptoms of Master Cylinder & Slave issues, and I'll be reading up on this fix. Please post links, part numbers, and tips ...thanks.
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07-19-2016 | #5 |
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Re: AVOID CLUCH MASTER RHINOPAC M0408
yes, he did my master and slave cyl a few years ago, not sure if he still does or not.
Rich
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Re: AVOID CLUCH MASTER RHINOPAC M0408
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The original slave did get destroyed during removal, so it was toast. Sent both out to Jim anyway, rebuilt the master and purchased another "original" slave from him for future need when necessary. Always good to have a spare, as the originals are getting harder to find.
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07-21-2016 | #7 |
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Re: AVOID CLUCH MASTER RHINOPAC M0408
Recently leaking and black fluid in the Master Cylinder.
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07-19-2016 | #8 |
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Re: AVOID CLUCH MASTER RHINOPAC M0408
I ordered a new one from Ecklers and it worked like a champ. The flange is a bit thinner, but once it was fully bled everything was perfect. Worth noting that on their site it says there is no pushrod and they "assume you'll be using your original" but my new one came with a new pushrod.
Did the first one have a bad internal seal or something?
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07-19-2016 | #9 |
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Re: AVOID CLUCH MASTER RHINOPAC M0408
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07-19-2016 | #10 |
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Re: AVOID CLUCH MASTER RHINOPAC M0408
I bought a rebuilt slave from Jim Jandik @ Power Torque Systems and a new master from Ecklers, at different times, and both have been "one and done" experiences, perfect. Of the two, I'd say the slave was the harder job. Next time I'd drop the exhaust just to gain a little more room.
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