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Old 06-11-2014   #1
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Default Cruise control inop

When I got my Ruby Red Z last April, I discovered that the cruise control did not work. At the time, I thought it was an easy fix, just check the hoses. I took it down to Gordon for him to take a look at it. He checked the vacuum and it was good. Check the dump switch and it worked fine. Switched out the stem with my other ZR-1 and that didn't do it. Finally, switched out the cruise control module with one that Gordon had and that didn't do it. I checked the clutch switch and it is clicking like it should which doesn't necessarily mean that it's working but that means that the adjustment is okay. Buying a test light to run through the diagnostics in the service manual. We did find out that someone put a 5 amp fuse in where it should have been a ten. We did find out that the LTPWS module has been fried because it would not enter into diagnostics mode. The cruise and the LTPWS share the same fuse. Looking for suggestions as to what next. No speed sensors codes shown.
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When I got my Ruby Red Z last April, I discovered that the cruise control did not work. At the time, I thought it was an easy fix, just check the hoses. I took it down to Gordon for him to take a look at it. He checked the vacuum and it was good. Check the dump switch and it worked fine. Switched out the stem with my other ZR-1 and that didn't do it. Finally, switched out the cruise control module with one that Gordon had and that didn't do it. I checked the clutch switch and it is clicking like it should which doesn't necessarily mean that it's working but that means that the adjustment is okay. Buying a test light to run through the diagnostics in the service manual. We did find out that someone put a 5 amp fuse in where it should have been a ten. We did find out that the LTPWS module has been fried because it would not enter into diagnostics mode. The cruise and the LTPWS share the same fuse. Looking for suggestions as to what next. No speed sensors codes shown.

Is the brake switch centered on the brake pedal arm? If its not the cruise wont set.
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Old 06-11-2014   #3
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Well, good question. I know that the dump switch works because Gordon was holding a vacuum meter in front of me when I hit the brake pedal. I haven't checked the alignment yet. That's now the next step right after I get my wife some coffee. Apparently, she ran out and I didn't know that. My fault, obviously. Funny how priorities get changed around like that.

Thanks dude.
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Well, good question. I know that the dump switch works because Gordon was holding a vacuum meter in front of me when I hit the brake pedal. I haven't checked the alignment yet. That's now the next step right after I get my wife some coffee. Apparently, she ran out and I didn't know that. My fault, obviously. Funny how priorities get changed around like that.

Thanks dude.
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OK let us know hopefully thats it.
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Old 06-11-2014   #5
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Had the same issue when I got my 93. was the clutch switch out of adjustment.
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Had the same issue when I got my 93. was the clutch switch out of adjustment.
When you say out if adjustment, was it not switching on and off or was it not hitting at all? What did you do to readjust it?
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Old 06-13-2014   #7
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Is the brake switch centered on the brake pedal arm? If its not the cruise wont set.
Dude, I followed the electrical diagnostics and it lead me to the stoplamp/cruise brake switch. I looked at the brake switch and it was centered although the clutch switch was hitting in the middle. I suspect that the brake switch is the culprit here. I plan to check it this morning. Had company come over last night and they stayed overnight. Hopefully, if it is bad, I can get another or repair this one.
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Old 06-13-2014   #8
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I have mine left over from auto conversion; 14043256 GM pt #. Looks like it snaps open readily for testing.

If yours fails continuity test, you can have mine for postage (never subscribed to 'new part Plug n PRay' diagnostics ).
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Old 06-29-2014   #9
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Got the cruise control to work again with help of Gordon Killebrew. Took the car down there with manuals, showed him I found out and he went right to the problem. Bad clutch switch. He re-engineered it to work and it was fantastic! While we were at it, he got the LWTPS to work again, all I have to do is put the new module back in the car. Found out a lot about the 93 car and how different they are from the earlier ones.
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Got the cruise control to work again with help of Gordon Killebrew. Took the car down there with manuals, showed him I found out and he went right to the problem. Bad clutch switch. He re-engineered it to work and it was fantastic!
My cruise is not working either, may check this. So how did he re-engineer a bad clutch switch? Was the switch bad or just need to be repostioned to make better contact?
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