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Old 12-12-2009   #1
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So I posted a question on why CF urls are stripped out from posts.

Anyway, I get a PM with the explanation that it will result in new people going to CF instead of posting here. I don't buy that, but ok apparently that's the reason. I can accept it.

But then I notice the whole thread is just gone. Not locked, but removed. And there was no mention of that in the initial PM I received.

I asked if I violated any forum rules or something without knowing it. Nope, but the topic had been discussed before, so it was removed. I don't see how it matters that different people once discussed it, but I'd think at least just lock it with that comment if you don't want it being discussed again.

Now I've gotten PMs from people saying they had replied to the thread. I never got to see them, so I don't know how many people it was nor what their opinion was.

I have to say, I find this sort of moderation to be surprising given the fairly small and friendly nature of the board here. Is this a common tactic here? Just wipe out stuff you don't agree with? Any non-Hadi folks ever had their threads removed for no clear reason?
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Old 12-12-2009   #2
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I saw your post as well and there wasn't anything "wrong" with it.... Makes no sense why it was deleted.


Also I have asked why no links to the CF and got the same explanation. Personally I think we should be able to link up posts and it would not take away from out Membership. I don't like to post up negatives about our site (I proudly heavily promote it to friends in person and post up links on the CF to OUR site) and think our site is well run! The use of this forum has grown tremendously in the past 3 years and many of our hard core guys have made this happen!!!!!

I hope we will reconsider deleting posts (sending PM's to people that get posts deleted) and allowing links to other Corvette websites.


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I agree with you Bob. The CF link ban has bothered me for a long time. I got a similar PM when I asked about a year ago.

I am very surprised that your entire thread was deleted.

I would like to see a reply from someone on the Board of Directors of the ZR-1 Net Registry explaining if and why the link ban is in place.

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CF doesn't allow for other forum linking, last I was there which has been a while since I was banned. I see no reason to link to that site whatever the official reason is. hell I see no reason to even go there for ZR-1 related stuff, we've got the best of the best here. however deleting posts is something I'd like to see end
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Waste of time going there anyways...I rarely go anymore.
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So I posted a question on why CF urls are stripped out from posts.

I have to say, I find this sort of moderation to be surprising given the fairly small and friendly nature of the board here.

I concur

Is this a common tactic here?

I do not think it is common or a tactic

Any non-Hadi folks ever had their threads removed for no clear reason?
I have seen a non-Hadi thread removed....so answer is yes
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Bob, the issue at one point and time that people were not posting content here. They would rather cut and paste a url to CF and say get your info here. And well, people still sometimes do it.

The Z Registry is it's own living breathing entity and should be treated as such. We support our vehicles and the content should live here as well.
 
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Bob, the issue at one point and time that people were not posting content here. That is prolly because they were not the experts and were just providing information, giving credit were it was found without being Plagiaristic

They would rather cut and paste a url to CF and say get your info here Doing otherwise would be Plagiarism.

And well, people still sometimes do it What is wrong with that exactly
I mean really....everyone here knows the other forums exist and go were the information (questions as well as answeres) is/are. Rarely the information is not here.

Besides....Jeffvette.....why would I spend time on another forum when you are on this forum Except I do also have a 1990 L98.

The Z Registry is it's own living breathing entity and should be treated as such. We support our vehicles and the content should live here as well.
The content is where the experts are and the forum is only as good as the experts who are members when it comes to a technical forum. If you (Jeffvette) move to another forum, I prolly will spend more time there

This is a very unique forum devoted only to ZR1s, so I doubt any moderator here has to worry about loosing either experts or content and overprotection is just that.....overprotection

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Bob, the issue at one point and time that people were not posting content here. They would rather cut and paste a url to CF and say get your info here. And well, people still sometimes do it.

The Z Registry is it's own living breathing entity and should be treated as such. We support our vehicles and the content should live here as well.
Well it was the thread deletion that really bothered me.

However, if you'd like to discuss the reason for the linking, I'm interested.

I see what you are saying, but I'd just point out, this is the Internet. Content is where you find it. That's how companies like Google work. They want to be where you go to find the content, not where the content comes from. Facebook, twitter, etc, all the same thing.

Content will happen on CF no matter what. There are tons more people, and there are folks with C4's that aren't ZR-1s. But the things they do to their cars are relevant to us. At least some are. If you can post those things up to the site here, we can find them here and discuss them here. If not, well we all have to browse CF as well as here to stay in touch.

I know you got banned a while back there, but do you still browse the site to see what new stuff is going on? I'd go out on a limb and guess you probably do. There is good information there, it'd be silly not to.

I'd much rather discuss that information here though. But it's quite hard to do if you can't provide a link to the starting point.

If you want to be in the content business (which is the model you are suggesting), you'd better have the best content. I don't think that's true. CF has way more content by virtue of its way more members. Even if every single ZR-1 owner was here on this forum, CF would still have more. While I realize this isn't a business in the money-making sense, it is a reasonable analogy the participation sense. I suspect if no one used the forum, you'd consider that a bad thing, even though no money is involved.

My two cents, if you want people to use the site here, have this be the place they can find everything they are interested in. You don't do that by pretending no good info is elsewhere on the web. Rather you do it by consolidating all the good bits of that here.
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