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GOLDCYLON · 03-12-2009

My test is on a dyno is yours Nick? I think your state uses just and idle and cruise test. Ours runs up and down under load in a 1-6 shift point program X2 for about 10 minutes. I also think our state expresses mathmatically 150 HC as 1.5 which is your states standard and mine is 100 HC or a 1.0 standard. I believe our standards are tougher in AZ.

Also im running magnaflows vs Random Techs, they look the same but maybe a little different also DRMs tune might be different from MHs

Nick · 03-12-2009

Yes, this test was run on a dyno. The "cruise" emissions are measured while in 4th gear.

GOLDCYLON · 03-12-2009

hmm then the standards are different plus our equipment is a little different

Pete · 03-12-2009

You guys still have emissions,that sucks.

No more emissions for OBD I cars in IL

I'm CAT free and loving it.

Pete

GOLDCYLON · 03-12-2009

Pete in AZ there are emissions requirements for cars from 1967 to present. Only 1966 and older and collector cars are exempt.

jonszr1 · 03-12-2009

geez yours are tougher than ca. they dont start testing till 75 when cats were introduced

rhipsher · 03-12-2009

Well D. I guess its time for you to move back to Texas. Haha!

The last time I got my inspection sticker on the Z it passed emissions with flying colors and I was almost out the door when the inspector tried to honk my horn and it didn't work. And he says well I can pass it if your horns don't work! I said well they don't get used very much. So he tried it again and they worked luckily. It passed every god forsaken test with every piece of electronic equipment they had while having a wond stuck up its butt. But by god they were gonna fail it over the stupid horn not honking and I'd be out $39. What a racket.

GOLDCYLON · 03-13-2009

Yeah the guy I bought it from told me

how the Texas Ahem inspection stamps work.... If you have cash you pass......

PhillipsLT5 · 03-13-2009

Sounds like Chicago
No Emission @ Firebird Fri nite, just test&tune
You comin?
I will be there At 6

rkreigh · 03-13-2009

VA lowered HC to 48 ain't no way.

the alchy doesn't work too well with a "closed loop" chip as the ECM compensates seeing a lean condition.

I'm going to try open loop, rich as hell pure alchy

I don't have secondaries which doesn't help either. graham told me that was one of the big reasons they went with that design was to get more velocity up under part throttle. I have another method, use your wallet. less hassle and there are many "helpful" folks that will take you that route

what I don't understand is changing the emissions laws to be tighter than the car was designed to pass in the first place. that's just wrong.

03-12-2009	#41
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,120	Re: Emissions retest another failure My test is on a dyno is yours Nick? I think your state uses just and idle and cruise test. Ours runs up and down under load in a 1-6 shift point program X2 for about 10 minutes. I also think our state expresses mathmatically 150 HC as 1.5 which is your states standard and mine is 100 HC or a 1.0 standard. I believe our standards are tougher in AZ. Also im running magnaflows vs Random Techs, they look the same but maybe a little different also DRMs tune might be different from MHs __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V Last edited by GOLDCYLON; 03-12-2009 at 02:28 PM.

03-12-2009	#42
Nick Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 585	Re: Emissions retest another failure Yes, this test was run on a dyno. The "cruise" emissions are measured while in 4th gear.

03-12-2009	#43
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,120	Re: Emissions retest another failure hmm then the standards are different plus our equipment is a little different __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

03-12-2009	#44
Pete Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicagoland,IL Posts: 2,667	Re: Emissions retest another failure You guys still have emissions,that sucks. No more emissions for OBD I cars in IL I'm CAT free and loving it. Pete __________________ '91 #1635 PoloGreen 350 LT5 11.09 @ 129.27 11.04 @ 128.86 474RWHP 400RWTQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFNFOhGGlR4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRIOMwaDYY https://sites.google.com/site/peteszr1garage

03-12-2009	#45
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,120	Re: Emissions retest another failure Pete in AZ there are emissions requirements for cars from 1967 to present. Only 1966 and older and collector cars are exempt. __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

03-12-2009	#46
jonszr1 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: lone pine and mammoth lakes Posts: 1,406	Re: Emissions retest another failure geez yours are tougher than ca. they dont start testing till 75 when cats were introduced

03-12-2009	#47
rhipsher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,314	Re: Emissions retest another failure Well D. I guess its time for you to move back to Texas. Haha! The last time I got my inspection sticker on the Z it passed emissions with flying colors and I was almost out the door when the inspector tried to honk my horn and it didn't work. And he says well I can pass it if your horns don't work! I said well they don't get used very much. So he tried it again and they worked luckily. It passed every god forsaken test with every piece of electronic equipment they had while having a wond stuck up its butt. But by god they were gonna fail it over the stupid horn not honking and I'd be out $39. What a racket.

03-13-2009	#48
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,120	Re: Emissions retest another failure Yeah the guy I bought it from told me how the Texas Ahem inspection stamps work.... If you have cash you pass...... __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

03-13-2009	#49
PhillipsLT5 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,446	Re: Emissions retest another failure Sounds like Chicago No Emission @ Firebird Fri nite, just test&tune You comin? I will be there At 6

03-13-2009	#50
rkreigh Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alex VA Posts: 1,080	Re: Emissions retest another failure VA lowered HC to 48 ain't no way. the alchy doesn't work too well with a "closed loop" chip as the ECM compensates seeing a lean condition. I'm going to try open loop, rich as hell pure alchy I don't have secondaries which doesn't help either. graham told me that was one of the big reasons they went with that design was to get more velocity up under part throttle. I have another method, use your wallet. less hassle and there are many "helpful" folks that will take you that route what I don't understand is changing the emissions laws to be tighter than the car was designed to pass in the first place. that's just wrong.