Dyno Sheet Petition - Page 4 - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

LGAFF · 08-12-2010

I have not forgotten about this, just a lot going on at work....I e-mailed Heinrecy to see if he had an opinion on who to send it to, but no response.

PhillipsLT5 · 08-13-2010

maybe JVD can point you in the right direction?

Paul Workman · 08-13-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGAFF

I have not forgotten about this, just a lot going on at work....I e-mailed Heinrecy to see if he had an opinion on who to send it to, but no response.

Ya know....You (we) at least deserve a response (from the NCM) - or some reasonable answer as to why not or time frame when this information would be made available...Much as operating the NCM costs, and all... I'm not trying to stir the pot (make that a big black kettle on a wood fire!), but "no answer" or just simply being ignored (to me) seems more than just a little rude, no?

Count me in: 90 #1202

P.

LGAFF · 02-15-2011

Sent off this request to the National Corvette museum, lets see what happens.....

Request for information: LT-5 Engine

From:Lee Gaffigan <leegaffigan@yahoo.com>

Add to ContactsTo:betty@corvettemuseum.org
Hello,

I am a proud member of the General Motors family, an owner of a C4 Corvette ZR-1, as well as a member of the ZR-1 registry. As you know, the C4 ZR-1 holds a special place in both Corvette and GM history; the first DOHC Corvette motor, the 24hr endurance record at Ft. Stockton, as well a placing the Corvette in supercar status with the likes of Ferrari and Lamborghini.

As a member of the ZR-1 Registry, we continue as caretakers of this unique automotive icon. Over the years, as support for the ZR-1 has dwindled and parts become scarce, we have pooled our resources to manufacture our own gaskets, bearings, and other items required to maintain the Heart of the Beast.

We have also pooled our resources to continue the development of the LT-5 motor, including development of large displacement small block LT-5s that produce over 600hp. Other automotive enthusiasts are amazed as this 20 year old legend continues to compete with newer automotive technology.

Lastly, we are preservationist of history, collecting articles, preproduction pieces, as well as supporting NCRS restorations. However, one piece continues to elude us, the original dyno sheets from Mercury Marine, each one unique to each of the 6,939 ZR-1 LT-5 engines produced from 1990-1995. Currently, the dyno sheets are housed in the archives at your facility, the National Corvette Museum. We have been informed that GM forbids the distribution of these sheets to the public, although I hope this is more folklore than fact.

I am writing to you requesting that the dyno sheets be released, in copy form, to current owners of C4 ZR-1s so that we can add this final piece to the legendary puzzle. Certainly this is a great opportunity to generate revenue and support for the National Corvette Museum as well as display your support for caretakers of this unique piece of GM history. Although we are a small group, we have continuously supported the National Corvette Museum, including raising nearly $15K for the motorsports park fund.

We anxiously await your reply and thank you for your time. If you are unable to authorize our request, please let me know who we might contact to request the release of this information.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Lee Gaffigan
Crystal Lake, Il
__________________
LGAFF
90 #966-135K miles
92 #234 $

tomtom72 · 02-15-2011

very well written Lee! I hope that they answer you so that we all can get a sense of how easy or difficult this request will be to get done.

Tom

P.S. do you know the cylinder head port size for the primary & secondary ports? I looked in the FSM and either I'm blind or it's not listed? TIA!

LGAFF · 02-15-2011

Here is the response from the NCM......Looks like I will need to call a few folks at GM, I know someone that worked for me in MI, his wife was the admin for a GM executive....will see who it is and if I can get anywhere with that....

Nothing would please us more than to release the dyno sheets?.. BUT GM forbids this. We have approached many ? Joe Spielman, Jim Minneker, Harlan Charles, Rick Bladick, Tom Wallace and the list goes on --- still no luck. Last May Jim Minneker said he would go to GM Legal again but so far it has not done any good --- the brick wall is still there.

FU · 02-15-2011

"Nothing would please us more than to release the dyno sheets?.. "

Nothing ?

DaveK · 02-15-2011

"GM forbids this"

Is this old-GM or new-GM? I thought that old-GM didn't exist anymore in a legal sense or did I misunderstand what happened?

What about if we bombard them with copies of Lee's letter through the internet until someone get's sick of us and gives in?

Dave

Kevin · 02-15-2011

so a company that my tax money bailed out won't allow a company that I pay to keep open to release something relates to a car I own. Sounds about right

as for a letter writing campaign they don't care. The ZR-1 is dead to them and has been for years. They don't care what the owners of some old car have to think about something that happened in the 80's.

PhillipsLT5 · 02-15-2011

Very well written
Keep trying, climb the long ladder
Did you contact Jim Van Dorn?

08-12-2010	#31
LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: Dyno Sheet Petition I have not forgotten about this, just a lot going on at work....I e-mailed Heinrecy to see if he had an opinion on who to send it to, but no response. __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

08-13-2010	#32
PhillipsLT5 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,452	Re: Dyno Sheet Petition maybe JVD can point you in the right direction?

02-15-2011	#34
LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: Dyno Sheet Petition Sent off this request to the National Corvette museum, lets see what happens..... Request for information: LT-5 Engine From:Lee Gaffigan <leegaffigan@yahoo.com> Add to ContactsTo:betty@corvettemuseum.org Hello, I am a proud member of the General Motors family, an owner of a C4 Corvette ZR-1, as well as a member of the ZR-1 registry. As you know, the C4 ZR-1 holds a special place in both Corvette and GM history; the first DOHC Corvette motor, the 24hr endurance record at Ft. Stockton, as well a placing the Corvette in supercar status with the likes of Ferrari and Lamborghini. As a member of the ZR-1 Registry, we continue as caretakers of this unique automotive icon. Over the years, as support for the ZR-1 has dwindled and parts become scarce, we have pooled our resources to manufacture our own gaskets, bearings, and other items required to maintain the Heart of the Beast. We have also pooled our resources to continue the development of the LT-5 motor, including development of large displacement small block LT-5s that produce over 600hp. Other automotive enthusiasts are amazed as this 20 year old legend continues to compete with newer automotive technology. Lastly, we are preservationist of history, collecting articles, preproduction pieces, as well as supporting NCRS restorations. However, one piece continues to elude us, the original dyno sheets from Mercury Marine, each one unique to each of the 6,939 ZR-1 LT-5 engines produced from 1990-1995. Currently, the dyno sheets are housed in the archives at your facility, the National Corvette Museum. We have been informed that GM forbids the distribution of these sheets to the public, although I hope this is more folklore than fact. I am writing to you requesting that the dyno sheets be released, in copy form, to current owners of C4 ZR-1s so that we can add this final piece to the legendary puzzle. Certainly this is a great opportunity to generate revenue and support for the National Corvette Museum as well as display your support for caretakers of this unique piece of GM history. Although we are a small group, we have continuously supported the National Corvette Museum, including raising nearly $15K for the motorsports park fund. We anxiously await your reply and thank you for your time. If you are unable to authorize our request, please let me know who we might contact to request the release of this information. Thank you for your time and consideration. Lee Gaffigan Crystal Lake, Il __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-135K miles 92 #234 $ __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

02-15-2011	#35
tomtom72 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL USA Posts: 4,645	Re: Dyno Sheet Petition very well written Lee! I hope that they answer you so that we all can get a sense of how easy or difficult this request will be to get done. Tom P.S. do you know the cylinder head port size for the primary & secondary ports? I looked in the FSM and either I'm blind or it's not listed? TIA! __________________ 1990 ZR-1, Black/grey, #2233, stock. ZR-1 Net Reg Founding Member #316 & NCM member

02-15-2011	#36
LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: Dyno Sheet Petition Here is the response from the NCM......Looks like I will need to call a few folks at GM, I know someone that worked for me in MI, his wife was the admin for a GM executive....will see who it is and if I can get anywhere with that.... Nothing would please us more than to release the dyno sheets?.. BUT GM forbids this. We have approached many ? Joe Spielman, Jim Minneker, Harlan Charles, Rick Bladick, Tom Wallace and the list goes on --- still no luck. Last May Jim Minneker said he would go to GM Legal again but so far it has not done any good --- the brick wall is still there. __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

02-15-2011	#37
FU Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Found Member Posts: 4,346	Re: Dyno Sheet Petition "Nothing would please us more than to release the dyno sheets?.. " Nothing ? __________________ Frank Urbo. NCM Lifetime member # 982 Registry Founding # 237

02-15-2011	#38
DaveK Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sudbury, Ontario. Canada Posts: 1,538	Re: Dyno Sheet Petition "GM forbids this" Is this old-GM or new-GM? I thought that old-GM didn't exist anymore in a legal sense or did I misunderstand what happened? What about if we bombard them with copies of Lee's letter through the internet until someone get's sick of us and gives in? Dave __________________ 1991 #1516 Black/Black davidmkelly.com "Speed is often confused with insight." - Johan Cruijff

02-15-2011	#39
Kevin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 4,632	Re: Dyno Sheet Petition so a company that my tax money bailed out won't allow a company that I pay to keep open to release something relates to a car I own. Sounds about right as for a letter writing campaign they don't care. The ZR-1 is dead to them and has been for years. They don't care what the owners of some old car have to think about something that happened in the 80's. __________________ It's not the car, it's the people - Doug Johnson 90 r/r "KEYS ON" nick named "T.L.B"