Harness bar install what do you fellas think? - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

GOLDCYLON · 05-23-2009

I bought a used harness bar over on that other forum so Ive been a busy cylon. Install was pretty easy what do you all think of formfactor of the install? Came with both passenger and driver side left and right seat mount points for the belts. Brey-Krause makes a real nice HB. Powder coated black crinkle looks pretty good in the back interior. I was a little paranoid about the install since Phil has such a hard time with his harness bar set up in his 91 that Haibeck had to deal with. I can highly recommend this Mfgs bar. I noticed significant stiffness in the upper frame area. Car is a lot tighter now. GC

flyin ryan · 05-23-2009

Seems all right, Daryll. Sounds good from what you say.

tomtom72 · 05-23-2009

Pardon my ignorance....will that set up enable you to use racing type seat belt systems? Is that what the guys that do track days ( HPDE days ) are talking about when they refer to a "harness bar" ?

Jez, I'm full of Q's, sorry...

Daryl, did you have to cut up the interrior to fit that equipment? It sure don't look like anything was altered, just bolted over stuff? It looks like the halo bar lights get covered? or removed?....I can live with that...oh, nice thumper btw!

LGAFF · 05-23-2009

Sweet!

Brey-Krause makes a real nice HB. Powder coated black crinkle looks pretty good in the back interior.-Did you do this yourself?

bobbyhi · 05-23-2009

Hey Goldie, what do you keep in that squirrel cage mounted on the back???

GOLDCYLON · 05-23-2009

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Originally Posted by LGAFF

Sweet!

Brey-Krause makes a real nice HB. Powder coated black crinkle looks pretty good in the back interior.-Did you do this yourself?

No Lee but it was done by KB and its Jeffvette quality. I remember the crinkle PCing on the motors that I liked as well.

GOLDCYLON · 05-23-2009

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Originally Posted by tomtom72

Pardon my ignorance....will that set up enable you to use racing type seat belt systems? Is that what the guys that do track days ( HPDE days ) are talking about when they refer to a "harness bar" ?

Jez, I'm full of Q's, sorry...

Daryl, did you have to cut up the interrior to fit that equipment? It sure don't look like anything was altered, just bolted over stuff? It looks like the halo bar lights get covered? or removed?....I can live with that...oh, nice thumper btw!

Tom thats the beauty no mods. The upper seatbelt mounts are removed and supplied hardware added. The lower lapbelt mounts fit behind the seat belt retractor and the inside lapmount point fits behind the seatbelt mount insert buckle next to the console. Thanks Tom the thumper came with the car and even with the thumper box and the bar the top still fit in.

05-23-2009

Since we are talking about safety, let me point out a few things.

When using a harness bar with 5 or 6 point harnesses, always use your factory belt as well. You are depending upon the harness bar to survive an accident of major catastrophe. It will not. Also 5 or 6 point harnesses are not street legal. You can get pinched for improper belts or not wearing a seat belt.

Second, when using harnesses, make sure they fit you properly. They should come straight over your shoulders square. In a C4 seat, they come around the headrest at an angle and can spread in an accident. Use a sternum strap to keep them from spreading, or better yet, get a race seat with proper harness holes incorporated.

Paul Workman · 05-24-2009

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Originally Posted by Jeffvette

Since we are talking about safety, let me point out a few things.

When using a harness bar with 5 or 6 point harnesses, always use your factory belt as well. You are depending upon the harness bar to survive an accident of major catastrophe. It will not. Also 5 or 6 point harnesses are not street legal. You can get pinched for improper belts or not wearing a seat belt.

Second, when using harnesses, make sure they fit you properly. They should come straight over your shoulders square. In a C4 seat, they come around the headrest at an angle and can spread in an accident. Use a sternum strap to keep them from spreading, or better yet, get a race seat with proper harness holes incorporated.

Looks good, GC.

And as always, cudos to Jeffvette; thanks 4 info re the seat belts.

P.

tf95ZR1 · 05-26-2009

Great harness bar. Some options:

I can look up the camera mount if you like. The fire extinguisher is mounted
with C bar clamps. And do you have the front seat track bar for
the anti-submarine belt?

05-23-2009	#1
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,155	Harness bar install what do you fellas think? I bought a used harness bar over on that other forum so Ive been a busy cylon. Install was pretty easy what do you all think of formfactor of the install? Came with both passenger and driver side left and right seat mount points for the belts. Brey-Krause makes a real nice HB. Powder coated black crinkle looks pretty good in the back interior. I was a little paranoid about the install since Phil has such a hard time with his harness bar set up in his 91 that Haibeck had to deal with. I can highly recommend this Mfgs bar. I noticed significant stiffness in the upper frame area. Car is a lot tighter now. GC __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V Last edited by GOLDCYLON; 05-23-2009 at 03:56 AM.

05-23-2009	#2
flyin ryan Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Edmonton, Alberta or Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,741	Re: Harness bar install what do you fellas think? Seems all right, Daryll. Sounds good from what you say. __________________ There are no limit's mans ingenuity, just as mans ingenuity will never conquer the forces & behavior of this planet...Smokey Y.

05-23-2009	#3
tomtom72 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL USA Posts: 4,645	Re: Harness bar install what do you fellas think? Pardon my ignorance....will that set up enable you to use racing type seat belt systems? Is that what the guys that do track days ( HPDE days ) are talking about when they refer to a "harness bar" ? Jez, I'm full of Q's, sorry... Daryl, did you have to cut up the interrior to fit that equipment? It sure don't look like anything was altered, just bolted over stuff? It looks like the halo bar lights get covered? or removed?....I can live with that...oh, nice thumper btw! __________________ 1990 ZR-1, Black/grey, #2233, stock. ZR-1 Net Reg Founding Member #316 & NCM member

05-23-2009	#4
LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: Harness bar install what do you fellas think? Sweet! Brey-Krause makes a real nice HB. Powder coated black crinkle looks pretty good in the back interior.-Did you do this yourself? __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

05-23-2009	#5
bobbyhi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mendota Heights, MN. 55120 Posts: 984	Re: Harness bar install what do you fellas think? Hey Goldie, what do you keep in that squirrel cage mounted on the back??? __________________ Bob Anderson 1990 #2405 White/Gray Haibeck chip,4:09 gears,Power Effects Exhaust,5 spoke chrome,C5 brakes,49th Street rockers,K&N,Hurst,Headers,Upper & lower ported Minnesota State Director Founding Member #19

05-23-2009	#8
Jeffvette Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Harness bar install what do you fellas think? Since we are talking about safety, let me point out a few things. When using a harness bar with 5 or 6 point harnesses, always use your factory belt as well. You are depending upon the harness bar to survive an accident of major catastrophe. It will not. Also 5 or 6 point harnesses are not street legal. You can get pinched for improper belts or not wearing a seat belt. Second, when using harnesses, make sure they fit you properly. They should come straight over your shoulders square. In a C4 seat, they come around the headrest at an angle and can spread in an accident. Use a sternum strap to keep them from spreading, or better yet, get a race seat with proper harness holes incorporated.

05-26-2009	#10
tf95ZR1 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northridge, CA Posts: 1,461	Re: Harness bar install what do you fellas think? Great harness bar. Some options: I can look up the camera mount if you like. The fire extinguisher is mounted with C bar clamps. And do you have the front seat track bar for the anti-submarine belt? Last edited by tf95ZR1; 05-26-2009 at 08:07 PM.