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Old 02-09-2019   #1
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Default CHMSL LED mod

I am contemplating Spal fan install this spring and I am hearing, due to heavy amp draw, higher capacity alternator and reducing electric load is advisable. One suggestion made to achieve the latter is to modify CHMSL to LED. In stop and go traffic with foot on the brake, CHMSL represents healthy electrical load is what I was told.

I heard some using Chevy Uplander, Pontiac Mini Van and Olds Silhouette CHMSL (same part) LED strip to work with our Z CHMSL.
I ordered Chevy, Pontiac, Olds CHMSL from Ebay for about $60 (of course a Chinese knock-off).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Rear-3r...72.m2749.l2649

Once disassembled and laid next to Z CHMSL housing, turns out LED strip out of GM CHMSL is about 1.5" too long.


Hmmm... What to do... I am no electric engineer but careful observation of the circuit board leads me to suspect 4 LED bulbs and a resistor represents one circuit and multiple circuits are connected to the power and ground in parallel. If I remember high school physics class, parallel circuits are such that if I cut excess strip circuits prior to cut should still light up.

Time to bite the bullet and try my theory to rest. If I am right - all good. If not - $60. I take a leap of faith (or is it cut of faith) and snap off excess length of the circuit board with a wire cutter. Hook up 9V battery and "dang!" I am right!

Time to gut OEM CHMSL and secure LED strip into the housing. Although tough to see, I laid down two layers of 3M double stick on the bottom of red plastic housing to keep LED strip from moving around, temporary 3M strip perpendicular to the strip to hold in place.


Also, attached 1/4" foam on the inside face of CHMSL upper housing so that, once screwed together with red plastic housing, foam will compress and keep the LED strip secure between the top and bottom pieces of the housing.
Also used insulated spade connectors so that I can switch the polarity if necessary because LED require correct polarity unlike halogens.

End result.


A close up.


Not bad for 2 hours on Saturday morning!

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Old 02-09-2019   #2
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Default Re: CHMSL LED mod

Here is solution I’m going with to handle the higher amp draw of Spal fans
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Powermaster 200 amp alternator PN 47864 with PN 186 65mm pulley


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Old 02-09-2019   #3
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I am not surprised.

My current alternator was beefed up when rebuilt last year to 145 amp. I have been contemplating a billet alternator putting out 200 amp.

Guess I should spread out mod works. Wouldn't know what to do when done...
Been also thinking about coilover FX3 vs. Van Steele 2 way adjustable coilovers. We shall see...
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This was Charlie’s fault. He shamed me in to it.


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Guilty as charged but mods not my fault, Wazoo started it................
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Guilty as charged but mods not my fault, Wazoo started it................
Actually -=JEFF=- started it when he made mine about 12 years ago. I am also running SPAL fans with a normal Alternator with no issues. However I have also been running LEDS everywhere for about 10 years. So....
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Actually -=JEFF=- started it when he made mine about 12 years ago. I am also running SPAL fans with a normal Alternator with no issues. However I have also been running LEDS everywhere for about 10 years. So....
Which LED do you recommend for tail/brake lights and side markers?
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Which LED do you recommend for tail/brake lights and side markers?
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Which LED do you recommend for tail/brake lights and side markers?
For the tail lights I went with the multiple LED model and did not just replace the bulb. The model I went with replaced the entire rear lens. Been running that on my white car 13 years and it’s also on my 90 and my sons 96 GS.



I did this for safety really. One time in a 14 month period my GMC Jimmy was rear ended 3 times in 15 months. The Vette is so low and I am always waiting on the Azz hat to jump into my lane daily at least I have done everything possible for them to see me including running DRLs on ALL my cars. My forum bud Dom hates this model because it makes a little cross for a light and honestly I get that but I agree it would have looked a little better if they had added one more LED to the top second and second from the bottom row which would have rounded it a little more. The brightness even in full AZ sun is outstanding! GC
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90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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