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SoCalZR1 · 06-21-2010

Update...

I have managed to talk to a guy at BAR (Bureau of Automotive Repair), we have it all here in California.

If you passed smog in 2009 you may not next time its your turn:

- Emission standards on our cars changed this year. I was not imagining it. The max levels have been changed to what the car had to meet as new. For example, what was an HC limit of 110 PPM last year on my 1990, is now 77 since that was the threshold on the car when new. I managed 70.

- I passed NO the first time and failed the second. The BAR guy looked it up. He knew my results and he knew the temperature that day where I had the test done. He says the tester did not follow proper procedure. When the ambient temp is above 74 the tester must use a large fan to provide airflow and keep the car as cool as possible. He did not and so the BAR tech believes that is why NO failed since combustion temps would have been high compared to real world conditions.

- I mentioned that if it turns out the CATS need replacement they are not available anymore. I was told to call the State Contracted Parts Locator ( 800-622-7733) and they can confirm and issue a certificate that parts are no longer available, and then a "referee" will issue you tags for two years with no smog test. There is one exception... there is a new "visible smoke test" that must be passed. If it fails then no tags can be issued until fixed. Here is a link to the process: http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/80_BARRe...08-09%20V3.pdf

If you do pass you go through the process again when 2 years are up.

- Curious what you emission thresholds are in California? They are called "cutpoints" and can be looked up here:

http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/pubwebqu.../ShowMake.aspx

Well, that's enough good news for now. I am going to go try again later this week. And, by the way, the BAR tech said a lot of people are upset that they are not passing.

All for now.

06-21-2010	#20
SoCalZR1 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Southern California OC Posts: 22	Re: Emissions - Updated with new California info Update... I have managed to talk to a guy at BAR (Bureau of Automotive Repair), we have it all here in California. If you passed smog in 2009 you may not next time its your turn: - Emission standards on our cars changed this year. I was not imagining it. The max levels have been changed to what the car had to meet as new. For example, what was an HC limit of 110 PPM last year on my 1990, is now 77 since that was the threshold on the car when new. I managed 70. - I passed NO the first time and failed the second. The BAR guy looked it up. He knew my results and he knew the temperature that day where I had the test done. He says the tester did not follow proper procedure. When the ambient temp is above 74 the tester must use a large fan to provide airflow and keep the car as cool as possible. He did not and so the BAR tech believes that is why NO failed since combustion temps would have been high compared to real world conditions. - I mentioned that if it turns out the CATS need replacement they are not available anymore. I was told to call the State Contracted Parts Locator ( 800-622-7733) and they can confirm and issue a certificate that parts are no longer available, and then a "referee" will issue you tags for two years with no smog test. There is one exception... there is a new "visible smoke test" that must be passed. If it fails then no tags can be issued until fixed. Here is a link to the process: http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/80_BARRe...08-09%20V3.pdf If you do pass you go through the process again when 2 years are up. - Curious what you emission thresholds are in California? They are called "cutpoints" and can be looked up here: http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/pubwebqu.../ShowMake.aspx Well, that's enough good news for now. I am going to go try again later this week. And, by the way, the BAR tech said a lot of people are upset that they are not passing. All for now.