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Paul Workman · 05-17-2015

Update:

After working on Steve's NO START problem, in the end we were unable to find the problem, but all agreed that the work-around that Steve came up with was not likely to cause an issue so far as getting the car home where a final solution could be worked out.

The issue:
All of (I'll call them) "creature features" like the temp control, fan, vacuum actuators (for the defrost vents), the temp display run ALL the time, unless the A/C fuse is pulled.

The START RELAY is NOT activated as long as the A/C fuse is in place, but if it is removed, all the (above mentioned) functions quit, BUT the START relay is activated via the CCM.

Once the engine is running, the A/C fuse can be reinstalled and use of the cabin features is possible, and the engine runs normally.

However, once the engine is turned OFF, the A/C fuse has to be removed or else the "creature features" remain running, e.g., fan, temp controls, etc.

My call for a CCM from the Gathering was a hedge against the possibility the CCM ultimately being the problem - and as time was running out (already Saturday afternoon): better to have and not need it, than need it and not have it...was my thinking.

A fresh start in the morning is in the offing.

05-17-2015	#5
Paul Workman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri Posts: 6,466	Re: Help locating a CCM module? Update: After working on Steve's NO START problem, in the end we were unable to find the problem, but all agreed that the work-around that Steve came up with was not likely to cause an issue so far as getting the car home where a final solution could be worked out. The issue: All of (I'll call them) "creature features" like the temp control, fan, vacuum actuators (for the defrost vents), the temp display run ALL the time, unless the A/C fuse is pulled. The START RELAY is NOT activated as long as the A/C fuse is in place, but if it is removed, all the (above mentioned) functions quit, BUT the START relay is activated via the CCM. Once the engine is running, the A/C fuse can be reinstalled and use of the cabin features is possible, and the engine runs normally. However, once the engine is turned OFF, the A/C fuse has to be removed or else the "creature features" remain running, e.g., fan, temp controls, etc. My call for a CCM from the Gathering was a hedge against the possibility the CCM ultimately being the problem - and as time was running out (already Saturday afternoon): better to have and not need it, than need it and not have it...was my thinking. A fresh start in the morning is in the offing.