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Hog · 02-26-2014

Cliff, a small scenerio.

Scenario Start
Discussion about torque specs on the Space Shuttle Main Engines that will be reused for the SLS rocket due top be launched in 2017.
Someone types the statement "the high pressere turbopump retainer bolts get torqued to 54 lb ft"
The inproper way for me to present a differing opinion would be "No dumbass, the high pressure turbopump retainer bolts gets torqued to only 50 lb ft of torque, idiot-stick, BTW I HEARD your cheque for registry dues bounced-AGAIN! Get your sh*t and your advice together"

The proper way to present a differing opinion would be "According to the NASA-2014 Space Launch System's-Turbomachinery Torque Value Book, the high pressure turbopump retainer states that the high pressure turbopump retainers must be torqued to 50 lb/ft.

End of scenario
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It's a sad state where as part of a car club that we must have rules regarding conduct, but that doesn't diminish the fact that when things go wrong, that there must be an accurate matrix that must be followed.
A thought I have about participating in public AND members only forums. When making posts, pretend that the person you are adressing is right in front of you, and that there are a lot of people that can hear what you are saying.
Also if you are experiencing an emotional reaction when responding to a post you have just read, leave your response un-sent for 5 minutes, then go back to it and re-read your response. In my personal experience, there has been many times where I simply erase my potential response.

I think that the message that there are consequences to your participation on social media, you simply cant type what you wish. Up here there are govermental sponsored advertisements about anti-bullying and hate type messaging and how there can be police involvement if it's reported.

As it pertains to this site, and I wish I could give credit where credit is due, but some one said "It;s supposed to be fun" and it really is. The guys that have the pleasure of owning a C4 ZR-1 and the enthusiasts like myself are the ones that will help to keep car clubs like the Registry in operation. If the clubs die, the ZR-1 will be relegated to being a trailer queen/museum madam with only people having deep pockets being able to drive them like they were designed to do. Freely flowing info on LT5/ZR-1 maintenance would cease, communication of parts needs would cease, it would be much more difficult to be a C4/ZR-1 owner/driver.
The ZR-1 is a special car, the manner in which RPO ZR1 and LT5 came about will not happen again. There is a great variety to suit all walks of auto life. You can easily get into a 1990 car as they made so many comparativley, and have a quick car that some would have no issues driving. Then at the other end of the spectrum, is the potential of the much lower production 1995 cars with certain details like the Birmal/Dunn manufacturere change that up the allure of a double Dunn head car, that some people might search for in a coillector/ownership capacity. After only a couple years in production, the car was on the chopping block and being killed already. LT5 engines built at Mercruiser for wide-assed cars that were years away from coming off of Bowling Green assembly line. The car that had an "option" that literally doubled the price of the car, the car that fought for distiction from the narrow-assed sister and the engine that fought with 2 little sisters, the L98 and the LT1. The car that ran at WOT for 24 hours setting world records, the car that made you excited if there was talk that the plenum had a black coloured crinkle paint.(Black Widow).
I cant think of a car that had such a unique combination of engine/chassis development, international promotional tours, bang for buck when comapred to the best of the best European and other countries-yet is civil enough to sit there and idle smoothly without issue. Usage of new processes, while bringing in other countries/companies in order to get the job done. A very very unique process and environment in which the car came to be. IMO it's amazing that the C4 ZR-1 with its LT5 engine actually made it to production. We must "keep the dream alive" as this is a great car involving great American history. The "ZR-1 Net Registry is THE resource for the ZR-1/LT5, to lose it would be a headshot to the plight of the ZR-1 Corvette community.

I apologize for the book, but I had some time, and I'm sensing tension, these personal thoughts of mine are directed at no one specifically, just generally towards the membership. This is a great car, and a great bunch of guys, it would be great to remain great, in all its greatness.

Have a great days guys.
Paul Schermerhorn

Oh, BTW, I was happy to see some of the previous generation of t-shirts for sale at the Registry store. They were priced great so I added a couple extra to my membership dues payment. I plyed with eth sizing a bit, my 2013 blue shirt fit a bit loose at XXL, so I 2 more XXL's and an XL just too check it out. Unfortunatley the week after I I got my 2013 shirt, I was adding chlorine to the pool and got some splashback on teh shirt. I didnt even realize it until a buddy said, Why are there whitre spots on your shirt? No matter I replaced it with the 2014 membership re-upp.
Buying up those older t-shirts is a great way to not only recoup some costs, but also reduce inventory. Heck $5.00 is the steal of a century for any quality t-shirt, let alone any that have pictures of LT5's and references to ZR-1 Corvettes.

02-26-2014	#3
Hog Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Woodstock, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,271	Re: Rule Number 5 Cliff, a small scenerio. Scenario Start Discussion about torque specs on the Space Shuttle Main Engines that will be reused for the SLS rocket due top be launched in 2017. Someone types the statement "the high pressere turbopump retainer bolts get torqued to 54 lb ft" The inproper way for me to present a differing opinion would be "No dumbass, the high pressure turbopump retainer bolts gets torqued to only 50 lb ft of torque, idiot-stick, BTW I HEARD your cheque for registry dues bounced-AGAIN! Get your sh*t and your advice together" The proper way to present a differing opinion would be "According to the NASA-2014 Space Launch System's-Turbomachinery Torque Value Book, the high pressure turbopump retainer states that the high pressure turbopump retainers must be torqued to 50 lb/ft. End of scenario XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX It's a sad state where as part of a car club that we must have rules regarding conduct, but that doesn't diminish the fact that when things go wrong, that there must be an accurate matrix that must be followed. A thought I have about participating in public AND members only forums. When making posts, pretend that the person you are adressing is right in front of you, and that there are a lot of people that can hear what you are saying. Also if you are experiencing an emotional reaction when responding to a post you have just read, leave your response un-sent for 5 minutes, then go back to it and re-read your response. In my personal experience, there has been many times where I simply erase my potential response. I think that the message that there are consequences to your participation on social media, you simply cant type what you wish. Up here there are govermental sponsored advertisements about anti-bullying and hate type messaging and how there can be police involvement if it's reported. As it pertains to this site, and I wish I could give credit where credit is due, but some one said "It;s supposed to be fun" and it really is. The guys that have the pleasure of owning a C4 ZR-1 and the enthusiasts like myself are the ones that will help to keep car clubs like the Registry in operation. If the clubs die, the ZR-1 will be relegated to being a trailer queen/museum madam with only people having deep pockets being able to drive them like they were designed to do. Freely flowing info on LT5/ZR-1 maintenance would cease, communication of parts needs would cease, it would be much more difficult to be a C4/ZR-1 owner/driver. The ZR-1 is a special car, the manner in which RPO ZR1 and LT5 came about will not happen again. There is a great variety to suit all walks of auto life. You can easily get into a 1990 car as they made so many comparativley, and have a quick car that some would have no issues driving. Then at the other end of the spectrum, is the potential of the much lower production 1995 cars with certain details like the Birmal/Dunn manufacturere change that up the allure of a double Dunn head car, that some people might search for in a coillector/ownership capacity. After only a couple years in production, the car was on the chopping block and being killed already. LT5 engines built at Mercruiser for wide-assed cars that were years away from coming off of Bowling Green assembly line. The car that had an "option" that literally doubled the price of the car, the car that fought for distiction from the narrow-assed sister and the engine that fought with 2 little sisters, the L98 and the LT1. The car that ran at WOT for 24 hours setting world records, the car that made you excited if there was talk that the plenum had a black coloured crinkle paint.(Black Widow). I cant think of a car that had such a unique combination of engine/chassis development, international promotional tours, bang for buck when comapred to the best of the best European and other countries-yet is civil enough to sit there and idle smoothly without issue. Usage of new processes, while bringing in other countries/companies in order to get the job done. A very very unique process and environment in which the car came to be. IMO it's amazing that the C4 ZR-1 with its LT5 engine actually made it to production. We must "keep the dream alive" as this is a great car involving great American history. The "ZR-1 Net Registry is THE resource for the ZR-1/LT5, to lose it would be a headshot to the plight of the ZR-1 Corvette community. I apologize for the book, but I had some time, and I'm sensing tension, these personal thoughts of mine are directed at no one specifically, just generally towards the membership. This is a great car, and a great bunch of guys, it would be great to remain great, in all its greatness. Have a great days guys. Paul Schermerhorn Oh, BTW, I was happy to see some of the previous generation of t-shirts for sale at the Registry store. They were priced great so I added a couple extra to my membership dues payment. I plyed with eth sizing a bit, my 2013 blue shirt fit a bit loose at XXL, so I 2 more XXL's and an XL just too check it out. Unfortunatley the week after I I got my 2013 shirt, I was adding chlorine to the pool and got some splashback on teh shirt. I didnt even realize it until a buddy said, Why are there whitre spots on your shirt? No matter I replaced it with the 2014 membership re-upp. Buying up those older t-shirts is a great way to not only recoup some costs, but also reduce inventory. Heck $5.00 is the steal of a century for any quality t-shirt, let alone any that have pictures of LT5's and references to ZR-1 Corvettes.