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Old 09-20-2012   #38
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Default Re: Seriously guys, wtf...

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At the risk of sounding redundant, I respectfully disagree with how you went about this. If your political view is in the minority, I would think your ability to express your opposing point of view would be something your appreciated and cherished on a forum like ours.
Instead, if I understand your reasoning correctly, you purposely exacerbated a problem in an effort to draw attention to it. That seems illogical at best.
You can disagree with my method. I really don't care. You can call it immature or not the best or whatever. The desired attention would simply not have been the effective without getting others to step up and volunteer the idea of shutting politics off. I'll post this yet again. I did not come up with that solution. I merely seconded the idea and many others followed (left and right) I also put up several other options so don't say I was pushing to have Politics removed as the only option or that I was the originator or the only proponent.

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Now you are asking that the forum change it's policy to restrict other forum members from exercising their ability to post their perspective on political issues. That also seems counterintuitive to your expressed posts.
You are absolutely and totally incorrect. I am not. I am asking for some sort of solution. And that it not be just putting air into the tire as a temp fix but that a root cause and fix happen. You say my methods for getting attention were bad and that I should have asked. Well?? what am I (and many others) asking? To date my only countermeasure for hate posts is to offer logic and possibly a counter point through a different thread. But then if I was able to see "OFF TOPIC" posts minus the Political, well then.

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Regardless, this is not a decision I intend to make on my own, and have asked for input not only from the forum members, but also members of the BOD as well. Just because the OT has been reasonably strife free from a political angst standpoint, that is no assurance it will always remain that way.
Exactly so. The division in the nation will be reflected here as well. It will continue and likely get worse as nations frustrations are fanned by hate, made up BS stories and class warfare. Which ever way it goes there will be extreme bad feelings and complaints of "oh well he only won because....." just like last election. Imagine how much more we could focus on car issues if we we all not exposed to the crap? Those that want crap could opt in. Some just want out but still see OFF TOPIC issues.


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The question is how we can best accommodate your request, without over moderating the forum and restricting other members. Hopefully the upcoming poll will help us to figure that out.
It would seem obvious. Make a cat litter box for those that want to dump in it . No moderation would be needed. It could be open season for those in there. (short of physical threats) The rest of us would not see or need to see. I run some Facebook forums and that's the separation we've imposed on ourselves. There is a litter box area.
Works well and virtually no moderation is need (except the one individual that indeed made a threat to another member)

For those that want to point and say "oh the irony of someone...... that posts the opposing view wanting to liming being able to do so" ?
Again the real goal is to get what's left in the cat litter box out of my face and others have said as much also.

I'm pretty well done with this thread. I await the action or inaction of those making decisions.
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