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Old 04-17-2012   #94
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Default Re: Close to an end? Obama an illegal.

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Originally Posted by vandornjim View Post
Well at least you put all of your gracious oopinions into one post, not 4 or 5 in a row.
Yah, I took your lead on that. Usually I like to keep each topic separate so as to not obfuscate the central theme. But then I realized your central theme was generally the same. Nothing Obama does or has done meets with your approval. Fare enough. Just know that not all of us out here agree with that.

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Originally Posted by vandornjim View Post
As I said, "SINCE and including TRUMAN" there have been only two. That means since WWII.
Correct you are. I did not explain my statement well enough. My point is that two presidents since WWII was not a complete story. The complete story is that 16 have served as commander and chief without military service. And I think you'll see some familiar names that were major contributors to our nation.
  1. John Adams
  2. Thomas Jefferson
  3. James Madison
  4. John Quincy Adams
  5. Martin Van Buren
  6. James Polk
  7. Millard Fillmore
  8. Grover Cleveland
  9. William Howard Taft
  10. Woodrow Wilson
  11. Warren G. Harding
  12. Calvin Coolidge
  13. Herbert Hoover
  14. Franklin D. Roosevelt
  15. William Jefferson Clinton
  16. Barack Obama

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Originally Posted by vandornjim View Post
Good for you buddy. If the governemnt is involved, I feel vulnerable not more secure. If you think a 6 year old little girl is a threat to airline security, you are entitled to your opinion. I don't happen to think so.
You are entitled to that opinion as I am mine. As someone who has traveled domestically and internationally quite a bit I feel safe with them there. Searches before 9/11 were comforting. After 9/11 the are even more so.

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Did you like it or something?
Well, let's just say when the Pakistani tried to search my youngest at DFW, I didn't piss and moan, I told the truth. I told them if anyone touched my daughter, I would hurt them enough they would remember me for the rest of their lives. There were 6 security people there in a minute or so. In the back room they emptied my daughter's back pack which had already gone through security. Her homework and her Bible was all that was there. It's a parent's thing Scott, maybe something you don't understand?
You certainly had the right to say that and you thereby received the proper attention. When I traveled with my toddlers/preteens I encouraged them to follow the rules and I provided an example for them by my behavior. The example I provided did not require additional security nor a private screening. I did however incur the wrath of one TSA rep upon returning from China by saying something argumentative. I sure wish I hadn't said it. They have a job to do and as even celebrities find our from time to time, you don't piss with them.

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Originally Posted by vandornjim View Post
It is easy to turn this into the typical piss'n match and blame everyone before for our situation. I don't turn to politics.
If I thought Obamba was the greatest of all greats, the simple fact that he can't get a single vote out of 565 members of Congress, for his own budget, tells me something. We need a new mechanic.....
That I believe in in error. I see a 414 member vote against but only after the "Boner" pushed the measure to the floor prematurely. It was a political ploy. As convenient as it is not to mention that it has nothing to do with the overall record of Obama. Just headlines for the press and an exaggeration to support the anti Obama crusade on this forum.
Is Obama the greatest of all greats as JVD states? Not by me he isn't.
But once again, he is not as bad as some of the rhetoric I've seen from the closet haters would have us believe.


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Will somebody pass me a metric crescent wrench please? Nuff said....but you keep going ScotFab....
Nah I'm done. You can have the last "embellishment".
Well unless a new assertion is made that is too far off in the weeds.
I can't even imagine what you'll go through if there is no change in the presidency this year. Man would that sting or what?
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