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Old 03-29-2012   #16
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Default Re: Close to an end? Obama an illegal.

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Originally Posted by efnfast View Post
Politics are great, can we get into religion next?
I don't mind helping a friend, neighbor, or bro out when they are down and out. I don't like supporting those that will not help themselves or even try to help themselves.
Our government definately has a role, like building our highway system and protecting our freedoms (thank you to those that do). I just think they are way overstepping their bounds. And yes, insurance companies have been raping us fr a long time. Too many people think insurance money and government money is free money. Duh, where do you think they get the money from? And I'm sure a lot will be lost in this discusion through the keyboard.
I do support the office of the President, as long as I think that person is doing what is in the best interest of this country.
Sorry, I'm babbling.
You're on to the solution (or one of them maybe) I like that in your post. You did not just rant wildly some rhetoric form the extreme right. And I totally agree that helping those that won't help themselves is wrong. Problem has been too many suffer by not helping anyone. I'd gladly trade our welfare for healthcare for the poor but that's not how it works. Absolute minimum in this country has to be "some" level of health care for all. Once you get folks off their high horse and admit that then we can start helping people before they go the the emergency room dieing. That removes clutter in the ER and saves $.
Fact is with increased loss of personal privacy (databases on us all) there should be ways to reduce fraud in both welfare and healthcare now. Combine that with having say one or two less wars should help pay for what we need at home.
If you dismiss the KKK type folks and other haters and just look at what this guy has done and has tried to do he makes the Bush legacy look pretty lamb. Looking forward to 4 more years.
OK now religion
I don't care WHAT religion you are or say someone else is. That's one of our freedoms in the country. That goes for the president even if in someone's mind he's Muslim
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