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Flyman 27 05-07-2019 02:09 PM

Start up knock
 
My '91 has always knocked a little upon startup. It fades away after a couple seconds. This year when I started it the knock was much louder & lasted much longer. Now it is doing the extra loud knock on all start ups.

I have had some experience with overhead cam engines and I would guess the problem to be cam chain slop. Either one or more chain guides are worn or broken.

Has anyone done this repair before? Any idea of cost?

Dan

DRM500RUBYZR-1 05-07-2019 03:20 PM

Re: Start up knock
 
Which oil filter do you use?
and, please explain, deep knock or a metallic rattle?
Marty

rush91 05-07-2019 03:49 PM

Re: Start up knock
 
My '91 has always had a second or so of rattle, but have noticed it goes away after an oil change. ( Amsoil and AC Delco PF970C ) Once I get around 1000 miles or so on the new oil change, the rattle slowly comes back.....

DRM500RUBYZR-1 05-07-2019 04:06 PM

Re: Start up knock
 
Try the Bosch 3401 listed below and please report back if this changes it.


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Flyman 27 05-07-2019 04:59 PM

Re: Start up knock
 
I use the WIX 51324, the HD filter with the silicone anti-drainback valve. They are supposed to be one of the highest rated filters for this engine.

DRM500RUBYZR-1 05-07-2019 05:04 PM

Re: Start up knock
 
OK,
Rattle or KNOCK?

Flyman 27 05-07-2019 05:12 PM

Re: Start up knock
 
Years ago I had a Lincoln with a 4.6L DOHC engine. It had a failed chain tensioner and the chain slapped against the housing upon startup.
What I am experiencing sounds like just like that.

I ordered the oil filter. It's worth a try.

DRM500RUBYZR-1 05-07-2019 05:19 PM

Re: Start up knock
 
OK, that does sound like tensioner/ chain noise.
Which oil are you using?

DRM500RUBYZR-1 05-07-2019 05:21 PM

Re: Start up knock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rush91 (Post 293392)
My '91 has always had a second or so of rattle, but have noticed it goes away after an oil change. ( Amsoil and AC Delco PF970C ) Once I get around 1000 miles or so on the new oil change, the rattle slowly comes back.....



Change to the Bosch filter now that it is doing it again after 1000 miles.
Just change the filter and let us know what happens.
Marty

Demps 05-07-2019 05:22 PM

Re: Start up knock
 
If isolated to chain rattle at start up and if still somewhat present after new anti-drainback oil filter...this helps some:

https://www.jerrysgaskets.com/housin...ign-90-95-1g4/


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