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zr-1assassin 02-28-2007 07:03 PM

are there two different trans in zr-1's
 
guys, i just had a gm mechanic (there corvette guy) mechanic tell me there were two different transmissions put in the zr-1! i of-course told him he was crazy. am i wrong??? one was a t-10 and the other was a t-6 or something??? he said some where 6-speeds and the others were 5 speeds with overdrive! help me out on this if you have heard about this please

DaveK 02-28-2007 08:05 PM

Re: are there two different trans in zr-1's
 
I've only heard of one but I'm not a corvette historian. The T10 was the old 4speed in the pre-C4s I think and also formed the non-overdrive part of the Doug Nash 4+3 in the early C4s. No idea what a T6 is.

Sounds like their 'corvette guy' needs to go back to school ;)

Corvettes White 02-28-2007 08:30 PM

Re: are there two different trans in zr-1's
 
Yes and no.

One family of ZF 6 speeds but two styles of gears inside, if I recall corectily.

George

IowaZR-1 02-28-2007 08:52 PM

Re: are there two different trans in zr-1's
 
The part # was changed on the ZR-1 transmission from 10186865 to 10255122 starting on VIN #800232 in the 1993 model year. All Zr-1's are 6-speeds and 5th and 6th are overdrives.

blackjack 02-28-2007 10:03 PM

Re: are there two different trans in zr-1's
 
there are two types of zf-6,apparently...the early ones(90-93) can handle more torque,as the late ones have different teeth angle to make them quieter,but a little less beefy
bj 91/1735

Aurora40 02-28-2007 10:39 PM

Re: are there two different trans in zr-1's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zr-1assassin
he said some where 6-speeds and the others were 5 speeds with overdrive!

No, that never happened. There were earlier Corvettes that had a 4-speed with a 2-speed overdrive, but not by the time the ZR-1 was on the scene.

zr-1assassin 03-01-2007 12:45 AM

Re: are there two different trans in zr-1's
 
thats what i was thinking!!!!!!! AURORA. this is all over me having the clutch replaced. he asked me wich trans i had and i was dumbfounded. for some reason i never have had much luck with the GM techs. and to top it all off he said just to put it in (i already purchased the clutch kit) would be $1240.00-JUST TO PUT IT IN! does someone know what this SHOULD cost to have the clutch installed. no flywheel-just ACDELCO clutch kit i have? thanks guys

tomtom72 03-01-2007 06:57 AM

Re: are there two different trans in zr-1's
 
I live in the NYC/Metro area & that's the price I was quoted to do the labor, more or less. The dealer that quoted me was below a $100 @ hr on the labor. If I remember right the total job, parts + labor was right at $1400 with the sales tax.

:cheers:
Tom

On the trans issue, I think the early Z's had black tag (made in Germany) and the later Z's were blue tag (made in USA). The gears in 1 thru 4 on the blue tag ones had different cut angle for less whine. I also believe the inputshaft collar has a different diameter so the T/O is different P/N on the blue tag trans but that may not apply to the Z, just the other 6spd C4's.

guinnessdood 03-02-2007 03:50 PM

Re: are there two different trans in zr-1's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zr-1assassin
guys, i just had a gm mechanic (there corvette guy) mechanic tell me there were two different transmissions put in the zr-1! i of-course told him he was crazy. am i wrong??? one was a t-10 and the other was a t-6 or something??? he said some where 6-speeds and the others were 5 speeds with overdrive! help me out on this if you have heard about this please

This probably will help...I think it answers everything...they are ALL ZF 6 speeds, but there are two versions and the two ZR-1 versions have different input shafts/guide tubes than the other C4 units.


QUESTION: Are the 6-speed transmissions in the ZR-1 the same as in other 6-speed C4s?
ANS: No, the unit in ZR-1s is specific to the car and unlike those used behind L98s, LT1s or LT4s. The difference is longer input shaft (~$550) and longer guide tube (~$110). This conversion requires unit disassembly (~4 hours labor). Also there are two different units (torque rating) used in the ZR-1: 1990-93 1/2 and 1993 1/25-95.

TommyL 03-03-2007 03:25 AM

Re: are there two different trans in zr-1's
 
The early ZFs have a black label attached and later ones have a blue label attached.


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