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rhipsher 02-08-2009 10:03 PM
Got my answer.
 
Throwout bearing is broke again. And slave cylinder pin snapped in half. Deja vu all over again. Well, instead of a "plenum pulling party"! I guess I'll have a transmission pulling clutch replacment party. WooHoo!:dancing:dancing. Ryan? Lee? Robert? Or is that crickets chirping in the background I hear?
P.S this time a fadanza flywheel is going in. And a better clutch.

XfireZ51 02-08-2009 10:20 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Take a look at the LT-1 camaro clutch with a sprung hub for the Fidanza.
Can be found for $69.

LT5-Lee 02-09-2009 04:40 AM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhipsher (Post 54237)
Throwout bearing is broke again. And slave cylinder pin snapped in half. Deja vu all over again. Well, instead of a "plenum pulling party"! I guess I'll have a transmission pulling clutch replacment party. WooHoo!:dancing:dancing. Ryan? Lee? Robert? Or is that crickets chirping in the background I hear?
P.S this time a fadanza flywheel is going in. And a better clutch.
There is only one response worthy of that invitation!

Oh S****T... :drunken_s

LT5-Lee 02-09-2009 05:10 AM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhipsher (Post 54237)
Throwout bearing is broke again. And slave cylinder pin snapped in half. Deja vu all over again. Well, instead of a "plenum pulling party"! I guess I'll have a transmission pulling clutch replacment party. WooHoo!:dancing. Ryan? Lee? Robert? Or is that crickets chirping in the background I hear?
P.S this time a fadanza flywheel is going in. And a better clutch.
Rick, Jeff was probably right about the misalignment, but I wonder if maybe the throwout bearing is fine and the clutch fork is just of it's pivot ball?

I would definitely without a doubt be pissed if I had to pull the transmission again !!!! :mad::mad::mad:

I thought I had it bad enough when mine only needed a dab of grease on the throwout bearing. I know one thing for sure, I probably would have caught it after reading the "BIG RED BIBLE" manuals clutch section, but I owe the guys here at the registry for the warning about the plug in the crankshaft! :worship: Now that would have been catastrophic! :censored:

I assume you replaced it also with the newer splined one with a little extra moly grease, right?

HIZNHRZ 02-09-2009 06:18 AM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Tell me your kidding. So yesterday, were you telling me this is what I have to look forward to when I start getting more than a few miles on the Z? If so, I'm heading for the roof...

Hang in there and remember,
This too shall pass.
This too shall pass.
This too shall pass.
This too shall pass.

GOLDCYLON 02-09-2009 08:01 AM
Re: Got my answer.
 
My god man are your bracket racing that car everyday? I just cant understand how are you having all these issues?

USAFPILOT 02-09-2009 10:31 AM
Re: Got my answer.
 
When are you going to do it? I am off this week. Maybe I can bring mine over and you can see what my shifter is doing.

rhipsher 02-09-2009 01:00 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by USAFPILOT (Post 54264)
When are you going to do it? I am off this week. Maybe I can bring mine over and you can see what my shifter is doing.
Ryan it probably won't be this weekend. Because if I spend anymore money on the king of the hill, the queen of the hill will kill me. So in order to keep the piece I am going to go ahead and sell the 68 mustang and use the money for the Z. I've lost interest in that stang and its just taking up space in my garage. And yes I did have the slave pin in the right spot because it was nice and shinny in the middle like rail road tracks after a 100 car freight train going over them. It took a hell of alot of force to break that pin.

Jeffvette 02-09-2009 01:25 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Rick, this stuff should not break, it should not bind when properly installed, unless it was just a case of "cheap chinese junk"

R&R the trans should only take you 3 hours, pressure plate not much more.

rhipsher 02-09-2009 01:34 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 54257)
My god man are your bracket racing that car everyday? I just cant understand how you are having all these issues?
I ask myself the same question. I don't drive it all that much. Just on the weekends. I've put 10,000 miles on it in the last two years. This throwout bearing thing seems to happen when I'm just cruising. Have you seen the throwout bearing in our cars? Not much to it. I agree Jeff this stuff shouldn't break. The slave has TAIWAN stamped in big bold letters right on it. The only thing I can figure is that it was not retracting when I took my foot off the peddle and was just building more and more pressure till the throwout bearing couldn't take it anymore and snapped. Which just cost me another clutch kit. This time I'm gonna put a Fidanza flywheel in and a Spec stage 2 clutch in. But remember Jeff I don't have a big fancy lift. It's gonna be on jack stands. Not a lot of room there. And will take more than three hours. But it should go quicker this time since I've already done it once a year ago.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...utchjob032.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...utchjob029.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...utchjob039.jpg

GOLDCYLON 02-09-2009 01:52 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhipsher (Post 54279)
I ask myself the same question. I don't drive it all that much. Just on the weekends. I've put 10,000 miles on it in the last two years. This throwout bearing thing seems to happen when I'm just cruising. Have you seen the throwout bearing in our cars? Not much to it. I agree Jeff this stuff shouldn't break. The slave has TAIWAN stamped in big bold letters right on it. The only thing I can figure is that it was not retracting when I took my foot off the peddle and was just building more and more pressure till the throwout bearing couldn't take it anymore and snapped. Which just cost me another clutch kit. This time I'm gonna put a Fidanza flywheel in and a Spec stage 2 clutch in. But remember Jeff I don't have a big fancy lift. It's gonna be on jack stands. Not a lot of room there. And will take more than three hours. But it should go quicker this time since I've already done it once a year ago.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...utchjob032.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...utchjob029.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...utchjob039.jpg

Good luck to you bro, Maybe Jeffvette can recommend some quality replacement parts. I would not trust anymore dubious parts.

rhipsher 02-09-2009 03:34 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Thanks Golden one. I'll fix her just like I always have and she'll be back in the saddle again soon. But I am not going to take any more chances with after market stuff. I'll buy the GM master and clutch slave from Jeffvette this time. You know the thing that sucks is my mother is flying out from California in two weeks. And she wanted to take it for a drive. Back in 1987 she bought a brand new red corvette which made her the coolest mom in the neighbor hood. And I told her that this one is a little different than the one she had. But I think I might already have a buyer for the mustang. We'll see.

USAFPILOT 02-09-2009 10:15 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Man...i cant believe it has already been a year since I helped you put the trans back in last time. I'll come over again but, I am in Houston alot less these days since I have to commute up the NJ for work now. The good news is I am going to be based in Houston again, they just havn't said when. Maybe in April.

rhipsher 02-09-2009 11:02 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by USAFPILOT (Post 54303)
Man...i cant believe it has already been a year since I helped you put the trans back in last time. I'll come over again but, I am in Houston alot less these days since I have to commute up the NJ for work now. The good news is I am going to be based in Houston again, they just havn't said when. Maybe in April.
Hey Ryan that is good news. I think Lee is gonna let me barrow his transmission jack. But I will still have to get the car up high enough to actually use it. I sure wish there was a fairly cheap way to raise it high enough. I'm starting to see the benifit of having a lift now. It would make this job so much easier. If I could rent one I would. Then It might only take a half a day to complete.

USAFPILOT 02-10-2009 10:18 AM
Re: Got my answer.
 
It is too bad Ellington Field is such a dump...most military installations hav a car shop where you can go and rent a lift by the hour. I used that in GA a few times...made things easy. I guess we could tow it to San Antonio and use the lifts at Randolf AFB...hehe...not really. Thats to far. Here's to a new lift one day. :cheers:

LT5-Lee 02-10-2009 03:14 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhipsher (Post 54307)
Hey Ryan that is good news. I think Lee is gonna let me barrow his transmission jack. But I will still have to get the car up high enough to actually use it. I sure wish there was a fairly cheap way to raise it high enough. I'm starting to see the benifit of having a lift now. It would make this job so much easier. If I could rent one I would. Then It might only take a half a day to complete.

Don't worry, I'll bring everything we need to get it up high enough. Let me know how high your jack stands extend "safely" without being too wobbly that is.

I would also buy an extra ground strap (engine to chassis) to put on the RH side of the bell housing just for grins and any exhaust wrapping you might want to add.:cool:

Do you have an air compressor?

rhipsher 02-10-2009 03:54 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LT5-Lee (Post 54347)
Don't worry, I'll bring everything we need to get it up high enough. Let me know how high your jack stands extend "safely" without being too wobbly that is.

I would also buy an extra ground strap (engine to chassis) to put on the RH side of the bell housing just for grins and any exhaust wrapping you might want to add.:cool:

Do you have an air compressor?
No! But as cheap as they are I might get one. A company I use to work for went out of business and were selling all the equipment for pennies on the dollar. So for $5.00 I bought a 1/2 and 3/4 drive Chicago pneumatic impact wrenches and air grinders/die grinders brand new in the box. I just need an air compressor so I can use them.

LT5-Lee 02-11-2009 01:42 AM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhipsher (Post 54353)
No! But as cheap as they are I might get one. A company I use to work for went out of business and were selling all the equipment for pennies on the dollar. So for $5.00 I bought a 1/2 and 3/4 drive Chicago pneumatic impact wrenches and air grinders/die grinders brand new in the box. I just need an air compressor so I can use them.

Well now is the time to think about getting even a good small portable 30 gallon one. A good small 1/4" ratchet will become one of your most prized & greatest tools ever bought, even for large bolts once they have been broken loose. Now a 3/4" impact, can also be one of the most problem making tools ever. :censored:

IF you have the room & funds, a dual stage 80 gallon one is mandatory, but even a small compressor is the heart of any mechanics motivation. :dancing

I am sure you probably already figured that out already. :thumbsup:

jonszr1 02-11-2009 02:09 AM
Re: Got my answer.
 
rick, is your clutch arm bad ? also ck the ball it pivots on .if you have any doubt replace them .i believe i have both off the burn victum . let me know if you need them . also you may want to call bill boudreau for any helpfull hints on putting it back in . he did mine in farrah so fast it wasnt funny 2hrs start to finish ,and he didnt have a rack either ,just kack stands

rhipsher 02-11-2009 10:52 AM
Re: Got my answer.
 
I will know as soon as I get the transmission out of the way what the heck happened.

jonszr1 02-11-2009 10:59 AM
Re: Got my answer.
 
it was when he put the blueprinted tranny in her

LT5-Lee 02-11-2009 12:16 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhipsher (Post 54405)
I will know as soon as I get the transmission out of the way what the heck happened.
You know, during our marathon phone conversation, I also find it hard to believe the TO bearing broke?

NOW don't take this the queer way, but I would like to jack your *** end :redface: up in the air and stick my finger in your (slave cyl.) hole...hehehe :jawdrop:

rhipsher 02-11-2009 08:15 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LT5-Lee (Post 54412)
You know, during our marathon phone conversation, I also find it hard to believe the TO bearing broke?

NOW don't take this the queer way, but I would like to jack your *** end :redface: up in the air and stick my finger in your (slave cyl.) hole...hehehe :jawdrop:
Lee! That statement would make you a lot of friends in San Francisco. :mrgreen:

I didn't realize that I could just replace the throw out bearing part of the clutch. The clutch is practically brand new.

LT5-Lee 02-11-2009 09:37 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhipsher (Post 54422)
Lee! That statement would make you a lot of friends in San Francisco. :mrgreen:

I didn't realize that I could just replace the throw out bearing part of the clutch. The clutch is practically brand new.

Yea, I figured that comment would have generated some more colorful comments by now?

jonszr1 02-11-2009 09:41 PM
Re: Got my answer.
 
rick what type of pilot bushing do you have the brass one or the roller bearing . bill was telling me ,that i should never grease the brass pilot bushing .so are you just going to replace the throwout bearing ?. what price was the stage 2 clutch . were you going to get it from corey ?


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