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musuraca 10-11-2020 04:28 PM

Front & Rear Springs
 
I'm looking for both the front and rear spring for my 94 Top Flight with 22,000 miles. The front spring delaminated in the center section and the rear has a 1 inch fracture all the way through. The parts are 17997093 Front and 17999322 Rear, and, of course, both are discontinued. The aftermarket doesn't seem to offer the front one. Any ideas or recommendations will be appreciated.
Thank you, Joe

cvette98pacecar 10-11-2020 07:36 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by musuraca (Post 315169)
I'm looking for both the front and rear spring for my 94 Top Flight with 22,000 miles. The front spring delaminated in the center section and the rear has a 1 inch fracture all the way through. The parts are 17997093 Front and 17999322 Rear, and, of course, both are discontinued. The aftermarket doesn't seem to offer the front one. Any ideas or recommendations will be appreciated.
Thank you, Joe

Joe, is it the same part number as a 90 or 91? If it is I may have both. That is if I didn't leave them in Michigan.

musuraca 10-12-2020 08:49 AM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Robert,
Thank you for your quick response. Unfortunately, 90/91 are different part numbers from 92/95.
Thanks again,
Joe

Stingray1967 10-12-2020 03:22 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Joe, just curious what spring code you have in the car right now.

DRM500RUBYZR-1 10-12-2020 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by musuraca (Post 315193)
Robert,
Thank you for your quick response. Unfortunately, 90/91 are different part numbers from 92/95.
Thanks again,
Joe

Correct.

Both springs are unique to ZR-1's.
Some were removed by those that changed to Coil overs and may be floating around.

If safety is a concern, and it should be, get any of the C-4 springs that are even remotely close to the rate of the ZR-1 spring.
Refer to Hib's chart at the Corvette Action Center

If judging is the concern do not dispose of the code tag from your existing spring, as that likely will be the only way to evidence a "correct" one.

These springs typically fail from the vehicle being tightened with a strap too aggressively when on a flatbed or a trailer.

The spring is not robust enough to handle being flexed the wrong way in those situations.

I have never found a new correct ZR-1 replacement spring.

But, things change.

Good luck!
:cheers:
Marty

musuraca 10-12-2020 04:45 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Stingray67,
Thanks for responding.
The rear spring is RHY. I can't see the front marking, but the NCRS manual states FSM.
Joe

musuraca 10-12-2020 04:46 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Marty,
Thanks for responding.
I'll be patient.
Joe

Stingray1967 10-13-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by musuraca (Post 315219)
Stingray67,
Thanks for responding.
The rear spring is RHY. I can't see the front marking, but the NCRS manual states FSM.
Joe

Joe,
I also have a '94 that has a standard coupe HA code spring in it. And the car is sitting about 2 inches too low up front. I just bought an FHA code spring from Mirrock and will be installing it at the end of the month. FSM code springs are like hens' teeth. I also found an older ZR-1 Registry post from Marc Haibeck who said he has only ever seen FHA code springs on ANY ZR-1 he has ever done. That's why I was OK trying the FHA code. I'll let you know how it works out.

Not worried about the rear spring, mine is RHY as well and it sitting about right, ride height wise.

musuraca 10-13-2020 03:12 PM

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Looking forward to hearing from you.
Joe

musuraca 10-15-2020 01:18 PM

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Good news. I was able to pick up the correct springs from Marc Haibeck.
Case closed.

Stingray1967 10-15-2020 01:31 PM

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Congrats, post some pictures of the ride height when you get it installed please. That correct ride height is what I'm chasing.

musuraca 10-15-2020 02:09 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Thank you.
There is a predetermined shim arrangement for ride height adjustment based on the color coding on the spring. The Shop Manual shows them.

Stingray1967 10-15-2020 04:36 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Can you measure the unsprung height for me? (peak of the spring down to the ground)

musuraca 10-15-2020 05:24 PM

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I'd be happy to. I won't actually have the replacement springs until some time next week. And I'll be traveling Wednesday through Sunday. So I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Please be patient.
Joe

Joelbbvette 10-21-2020 02:34 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Do you have good photos of the paper labels on the springs for other years? I have reproduced the front and Rear stickers for the 90 ZR-1 that have passed NCRS judging at Nationals. Front is AA with PN 17988598 and Rear is NYR 14065899.

musuraca 10-21-2020 04:52 PM

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Stingray1967,
The front spring is FHA and the overall height at the apex is 8 inches. See the attached photos and a copy of the shop manual page for the front spring.
Joe

musuraca 10-21-2020 04:53 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Joel,
I have no labels for the springs.
Sorry,
Joe

Stingray1967 10-23-2020 10:35 AM

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Thanks musuraca!! I'll have to measure mine now. Interesting that you received an FHA code.

Stingray1967 10-24-2020 02:50 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Joe, thanks again for the measurement. Mine is 8" as well (FHA code). Still hoping to get it in the car next weekend.

musuraca 10-24-2020 05:07 PM

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Stingray1967,
Good luck. I'll be doing mine next week too.
Joe

musuraca 10-30-2020 05:04 PM

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Stingray1967,
I got both springs installed, and now the front of the car is sitting at least an inch higher. It seems to be too high. I think I'm even seeing a slight slant upward in the front. Please let me know how yours turned out.
Thanks,
Joe

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Ccmano 10-31-2020 12:34 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
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Originally Posted by musuraca (Post 315891)
Stingray1967,
I got both springs installed, and now the front of the car is sitting at least an inch higher. It seems to be too high. I think I'm even seeing a slight slant upward in the front. Please let me know how yours turned out.
Thanks,
Joe

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At the risk of stating the obvious. Have you driven it since installing the springs? The springs and suspension need to settle after installation. Needs to be driven to do that.
H
:cheers:

Stingray1967 11-01-2020 10:55 PM

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Thanks Joe, the spring install took about 4 hours. I had a group of guys helping, and a local car guy who runs a shop provide the space. Immediately after installing, the car was sitting higher than I wanted. I took the shop owner for a blast up to 7,000 RPM on the freeway, and when we got back it is was sitting PERFECTLY. I know the ride height is probably too high for some of you guys, but for me it is perfect.

A huge thanks to one of the local MN ZR-1 guys (Matt) for lending his Saturday, and to the NCRS guys, and to the shop owner, Eric. For non-ZR-1 repair work, check out https://www.ericsrepair.com/ if you are in the Twin Cities area.

-Chris

musuraca 11-02-2020 10:59 AM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Looks good. Mine is about the same. A little high for me, but OK.

Stingray1967 11-02-2020 12:10 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Joe, does the front sit higher than the rear now? Mine did initially, before I drove it a bit.

musuraca 11-02-2020 12:28 PM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Yes, just a bit. I've driven about 40 miles. I hope it drops a little more, but I'm not sure a composite spring will change much. I'm satisfied now because I know it's correct, and not fractured like the old one.

Stingray1967 11-03-2020 11:24 AM

Re: Front & Rear Springs
 
Good deal. Enjoy the car! I put mine away for the year the day we swapped the spring. New tires and alignment happening next year as opposed to this year. I didn't want the car sitting on brand new tires over the winter. Better to have it sit on the old tires.


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