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mlubahn 12-09-2017 07:23 PM

WANTED: Cam position sensor and Dual mass flywheel for 1990 ZR1 LT5
 
Hello. Looking for a camshaft position sensor for my 1990 ZR1. From what I understand, there are a few part numbers: 10096172 and 10137658. Possibly more???? Please let me know if you have one, new or used. THANKS!

Maybe a dual mass flywheel too!!!!

Please let me know if you have either

Young1 12-09-2017 10:54 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
I am looking also. All I have found is 239.95 at napa. Whew! Any leads are appreciated.

Ccmano 12-10-2017 11:03 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor and Dual mass flywheel for 1990 ZR1 LT5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlubahn (Post 271560)
Hello. Looking for a camshaft position sensor for my 1990 ZR1. From what I understand, there are a few part numbers: 10096172 and 10137658. Possibly more???? Please let me know if you have one, new or used. THANKS!

Maybe a dual mass flywheel too!!!!

Please let me know if you have either

PM sent...
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Young1 12-10-2017 04:21 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Mr. Dynamite. Jerrys link submitted is for a crank sensor. Jerry has no listing for cam sensors. Any other suppliers anyone can share?

WVZR-1 12-12-2017 07:42 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Some potential after-market other than the NAPA selection BUT only for the later 10137658 which is also the NAPA interchange.

WELLS - SU1101

SMP - PC110

AIRTEX - 5S1254

AUTOPART INTERNATIONAL - 1802-302169 (couldn't confirm with an image)

When the GM 10137658 was used to replace the 10096172 there were GM notes that mentioned a different shield GM 10199080 likely required.

10096172 seems to have been used '90 & '91 with the 10137658 potentially in later '92+ builds.

If your '90 is apart it might be interesting to compare the shield differences with snapshots.

Z51JEFF 12-13-2017 07:07 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
I have an AIRTEX in my car,think it was $200. As stated the original shield won’t work with this part.

Young1 12-18-2017 12:02 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Gentlemen, I am desperate to purchase a camshaft positioning sensor. A month ago napa had five within the country, now they have none. I have used all of the part numbers I have called manufacturers I have spent hours on the Internet and I have come up blank. I waited until I got my bonus last Friday and that was too long. My car backfired coughed stumbled and died in traffic Saturday evening. Started right up after I stopped though. Code 31 once again. Desperate in Florida.

Ccmano 12-18-2017 01:42 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
I hesitate to say it but White Racing Products in FL. shows one in stock. $296.00

These guys are a craps shoot

http://www.whiteracingproducts.com/i...roducts_id=596

The next site has a listing of dealers that supposedly have them in stock. Good luck!

http://oemcats.com/oem-parts/10137658.html

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Mystic ZR-1 12-18-2017 05:04 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
FWIW: Have your injectors been replaced?
Code 31 was just one of the spurious codes that
showed up when my injectors crapped out...

Jagdpanzer 12-18-2017 05:54 PM

VRe: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Wonder if there is an alternative sensor out there that could be adapted to work in place of the original OEM cam sensor?

Young1 12-18-2017 06:20 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
That is great Ccmano. I shall start calling those contacts.
My injectors have been replaced.
What is the deal with the shield? Does the 90,91 shield work with modification? Do I have to locate and purchase the 10199080 shield?
Thanks for the info. I was beginning to lose hope. The Beast shall LIVE!

Jagdpanzer 12-19-2017 04:08 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
I may have found a suitable alternative cam sensor.
Anyone know the PN for the Weather Pack connector on the end of the OEM cam sensor pigtail and where to get it?

Young1 12-19-2017 04:28 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Ccmano. All the GM parts outlets do not have the sensor. One is not available anywhere in the 50 states. I am not comfortable dealing with White Racing due to reviews. Jagdpanzer I am willing to cut off the GM connector and splice it on to an alternative sensor. Share your thoughts. Yet desperate in Florida.

WVZR-1 12-19-2017 04:32 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Young1 (Post 271855)
Ccmano. All the GM parts outlets do not have the sensor. One is not available anywhere in the 50 states. I am not comfortable dealing with White Racing due to reviews. Jagdpanzer I am willing to cut off the GM connector and splice it on to an alternative sensor. Share your thoughts. Yet desperate in Florida.

You shouldn't have to cut anything. I've no problem with the mating connector on the "harness side" I'm just compiling the information for what is on the "pigtail" so it could be fabricated.

It's NOT Weather-Pack - that would be to simple! LOL

Young1 12-19-2017 04:45 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Let's see what TEAM WAZOO comes up with. How about THE FBI guys? Any ideas?

WVZR-1 12-19-2017 05:06 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
The OP hasn't been back so "Young1" do you have the cam sensor removed and on the bench? I believe I've sorted this.

Phil do you have one on the bench?

OP - how about you?

Young1 12-19-2017 05:10 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor and Dual mass flywheel for 1990 ZR1 LT5
 
I can have it removed and on the bench by the top of the hour. Heading home now.


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Young1 12-19-2017 05:56 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor and Dual mass flywheel for 1990 ZR1 LT5
 
WVZR-1 sensor is on the bench. It is original part 10096172. What next? I shall PM you my phone number.


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WVZR-1 12-19-2017 06:21 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor and Dual mass flywheel for 1990 ZR1 LT5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Young1 (Post 271860)
WVZR-1 sensor is on the bench. It is original part 10096172. What next? I shall PM you my phone number.


I used the email you have in the "contact info" and told you what I'd like to have from you. If your contact info is correct you should have my email.

WVZR-1 12-19-2017 06:39 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Phil has sent me all of the information I need and I'm very sure my information is correct. I'm going to compile everything and forward it to Phil for confirmation.

Young1 - All's well - if you send me snapshots that's fine - if not I believe I'm OK without.

Jagdpanzer 12-19-2017 06:47 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Reasonably sure the sensor I found will do the trick. Ordered a couple to make the necessary mods to and verify on my car. Should have a verdict by the weekend. Wish me luck!

A26B 12-19-2017 06:51 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Not just good luck, but GREAT LUCK!!

Young1 12-19-2017 06:52 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor and Dual mass flywheel for 1990 ZR1 LT5
 
May the spirit of Zora Duntov be with you.


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WVZR-1 12-19-2017 06:54 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagdpanzer (Post 271864)
Reasonably sure the sensor I found will do the trick. Ordered a couple to make the necessary mods to and verify on my car. Should have a verdict by the weekend. Wish me luck!

I'm going to send you all of the information - this evening likely but no later than in the AM.

Dynomite 12-19-2017 08:28 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagdpanzer (Post 271864)
Reasonably sure the sensor I found will do the trick. Ordered a couple to make the necessary mods to and verify on my car. Should have a verdict by the weekend. Wish me luck!

Lots of Luck be with you :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

And...Thank You WVZR-1 for all your technical Information :handshak::handshak:

Ccmano 12-19-2017 08:30 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagdpanzer (Post 271864)
Reasonably sure the sensor I found will do the trick. Ordered a couple to make the necessary mods to and verify on my car. Should have a verdict by the weekend. Wish me luck!

Nice work Phil and Bob... hope this comes together.
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Z51JEFF 12-19-2017 10:12 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Pretty much all of the OEM terminals and connectors can be found at TERMINAL SUPPLY or MOUSER. I have a lot of the OEM connectors in a kit I’ve put it together,if somebody wants to post a picture of what your looking for I can confirm this.

Jagdpanzer 12-19-2017 11:06 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor and Dual mass flywheel for 1990 ZR1 LT5
 
Here you go
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b96955f253.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a5398f6f84.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8280e85600.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ba6476211c.jpg


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Ccmano 12-20-2017 12:30 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Looks the same as an O2 sensor connector.
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Z51JEFF 12-20-2017 02:52 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
I can’t post pictures here of what I have but somebody send me an email and I’ll send a few pictures when I get off work. I’ve used these terminals when I put the Euro taillights in my car.

WVZR-1 12-20-2017 03:34 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Until Phil has the sensor and confirms the configuration of the sensor to the cavity the connector is of little concern. I've ID'd the connector shell and supplied Phil with all of the tools needed to evaluate components and eliminate guessing. The terminals and seals need to be selective based upon the wire gauge of the sensor he's considered.

I'd say the project is 'under control'!

Jeff - your sources are valid for parts. I used another but I was buying in bulk when I was purchasing.

secondchance 12-20-2017 06:47 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Is this the connector we are looking for?
If the sensor is correct minus the connector, re-pinning should be relatively easy.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dorman-64...&wl13=&veh=sem

WVZR-1 12-20-2017 07:59 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secondchance (Post 271877)
Is this the connector we are looking for?
If the sensor is correct minus the connector, re-pinning should be relatively easy.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dorman-64...&wl13=&veh=sem

Hello Yun - good find. Interesting but it's a long way around to get to where you want to be. You also have to question the Dorman assembly. Some of these after-market connectors while they "mate" correctly they're assembled with completely different terminal retention etc. They won't always 're-pin'.

For that price a person could buy enough components to build maybe 4 of the correct harness connectors. Right now like I mentioned Phil should have information and until the sensor compatibility to the cavity is confirmed there's no rush to the connector.

Actually if a person such as Young1 had a known good connector on a defective sensor he would only need the sensor, transfer his conduit, buy 3 terminals and 3 seals for the terminals assemble and be done.

secondchance 12-20-2017 09:18 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WVZR-1 (Post 271878)
Hello Yun - good find. Interesting but it's a long way around to get to where you want to be. You also have to question the Dorman assembly. Some of these after-market connectors while they "mate" correctly they're assembled with completely different terminal retention etc. They won't always 're-pin'.

For that price a person could buy enough components to build maybe 4 of the correct harness connectors. Right now like I mentioned Phil should have information and until the sensor compatibility to the cavity is confirmed there's no rush to the connector.

Actually if a person such as Young1 had a known good connector on a defective sensor he would only need the sensor, transfer his conduit, buy 3 terminals and 3 seals for the terminals assemble and be done.

Hey, Dave! Hope all is excellent with you.
I have been busy tracking down correct GM connectors since I have been having a lot of "oh-s**t" moments breaking OEM connectors while disconnecting them. Price you pay for holding onto 23 plus year old car... AC Delco use to have an excellent webpage where you can list AC Delco connectors by male/female and number of prongs. For some reason, I cannot find this web page. Could it be that GM really wants us to walk away from 20 plus year old cars and buy new?

tnova 12-20-2017 10:14 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
My sensor was cracked where it bolted to the head. I made a JB Weld repair but would prefer to replace the sensor prior to reinstalling the engine. Looking forward to the results.

Z51JEFF 12-20-2017 10:27 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor and Dual mass flywheel for 1990 ZR1 LT5
 
I’ve got everything but the grey holder but that can be transferred onto the new connector,even have the OEM PACKARD wire crimper and the release tool. I’ve got 2 boxes of all his stuff but can only find one. I can post pictures on the Z page on Facebook.

Z51JEFF 12-20-2017 11:05 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
For some reason I don’t see an option to post pictures on the Z Registry.

Ccmano 12-20-2017 11:08 AM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Z51JEFF (Post 271885)
For some reason I don’t see an option to post pictures on the Z Registry.

Go to the user CP, upper left. Then pictures and albums on the left.

I use tinypic.com very simple to use app on my iPad and iPhone. A little clunky on windows.
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Z51JEFF 12-20-2017 08:08 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor for LT5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ccmano (Post 271886)
Go to the user CP, upper left. Then pictures and albums on the left.

I use tinypic.com very simple to use app on my iPad and iPhone. A little clunky on windows.
H
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The pictures are on the Z page on Facebook.

A1990 12-20-2017 11:05 PM

Re: WANTED: Cam position sensor and Dual mass flywheel for 1990 ZR1 LT5
 
Picture from Jeff:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b015c9b4e5.jpg

Another picture

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...224066b5c5.jpg


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