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-=Jeff=- 07-21-2015 08:24 AM

Steering wheel
 
so I am considering removing the Gen 1 Bag/ wheel from my 1990.. I have a 1990 column and 1987 column at home (spares) I am hoping to morph the 2 together and install in the Z.. (this is a longer term project as I need to get a Steering wheel still)

anyway, I am lean towards this wheel:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...62-Ic42/16.jpg

if I had 1991 or 1992 Gen 2 Bag I would keep the airbag in the car..

GOLDCYLON 07-21-2015 09:11 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 229466)
so I am considering removing the Gen 1 Bag/ wheel from my 1990.. I have a 1990 column and 1987 column at home (spares) I am hoping to morph the 2 together and install in the Z.. (this is a longer term project as I need to get a Steering wheel still)

anyway, I am lean towards this wheel:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...62-Ic42/16.jpg

if I had 1991 or 1992 Gen 2 Bag I would keep the airbag in the car..

-=JEFF=- while I am a fan of this better looking steering wheel I would not consider removing a head/safety survivability feature of the car. Just my thoughts. If you are in a serious accident with the car its just not worth it and your insurance company may take a dour view of your defeating an OEM safety devices which could affect future compensation and liability. Just my thoughts. GC

-=Jeff=- 07-21-2015 09:14 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
would they frown upon upgrading to a newer version bag?

GOLDCYLON 07-21-2015 09:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 229471)
would they frown upon upgrading to a newer version bag?


I dont think they would catch that unless it did not perform as expected.

-=Jeff=- 07-21-2015 09:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 229474)
I dont think they would catch that unless it did not perform as expected.

So what happens when a car can no longer can get the airbag parts.. they total it?

XfireZ51 07-21-2015 10:01 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
I'm w GC. Would love to find a way of using the C6/7 wheel on our cars.

-=Jeff=- 07-21-2015 10:03 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 229477)
I'm w GC. Would love to find a way of using the C6/7 wheel on our cars.

Sure.. that would be the best.. unfortunately not though

WVZR-1 07-21-2015 10:32 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 229476)
So what happens when a car can no longer can get the airbag parts.. they total it?

Much would depend on if you were the insured or a CLAIMANT I would think. Regarding whether the insurance company could maybe base future or potential medical claims based on it not being there, there's always the argument that older airbags were very powerful and HURT many. Based on what the NEWER technology does and is capable of I doubt there could be much of an argument.

Haven't checked safety inspections in most states recently BUT even a deployed airbag wasn't a sufficient reason to fail a vehicle in VA some years ago. I saw that argued and ended up with the inspection done by a VA TROOPER

SIR is an unusual thing. Vehicles were built for years for rental companies where SIDE CURTAIN DELETE was offered and these vehicles were resold for years without disclosure.

GOLDCYLON 07-21-2015 11:21 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 229476)
So what happens when a car can no longer can get the airbag parts.. they total it?


No but if you activily defeat what is there is the point. Kinda like there are no avail factory cats for the 90-91 model however there is always an available replacement by Random Tech or Magna Flow.

GOLDCYLON 07-21-2015 11:25 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 229477)
I'm w GC. Would love to find a way of using the C6/7 wheel on our cars.


I noticed Dom is NOT a fan of the Pillsbury Doughboy C5/C6 Version of the Steering wheel

http://www.corvettevalley.com/galler...ing_Wheel_.jpg

-=Jeff=- 07-21-2015 11:32 AM

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I will say that at least in the 90-95 (our cars) it might not be illegal to remove. reason I say that is they were not federally mandated until 1996

XfireZ51 07-21-2015 11:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 229489)
I noticed Dom is NOT a fan of the Pillsbury Doughboy C5/C6 Version of the Steering wheel

http://www.corvettevalley.com/galler...ing_Wheel_.jpg




HORRID!
As were the stock C5 wagon wheels

XfireZ51 07-21-2015 11:56 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Jeff,

Lgaff would be the one to ask about steering wheels and insurance consequences.

GOLDCYLON 07-21-2015 12:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 229495)
HORRID!
As were the stock C5 wagon wheels


No argument from me Dom its one ugly wheel as were the wagon wheels :cheers:

About the only thing I like about the C5 was the HUD for that matter

XfireZ51 07-21-2015 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 229499)
No argument from me Dom its one ugly wheel as were the wagon wheels :cheers:

About the only thing I like about the C5 was the HUD for that matter

Love the idea of a HUD. Can u believe people spent good money "chroming" those horrible POS wheels.

GOLDCYLON 07-21-2015 12:19 PM

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-=JEFF=- Just dress up what you have.

Every day I get in the car this wheel brings me a little smile. I would have "D"ed this wheel but that only works well with a small center hub. Our Bag is pretty fat


http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/...ps94739d70.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3ae8c059.jpg

ALL CARBON FIBER TREATMENTS ARE IMPRERIOUS LEADER SERIES APPROVED....... BY YOUR COMMAND

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/...pslgjzsatb.jpg

-=Jeff=- 07-21-2015 12:30 PM

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Only if I had your money..LOL

I do like the design by the horn buttons.. but maybe the wheel in all leather

GOLDCYLON 07-21-2015 04:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 229504)
Only if I had your money..LOL

I do like the design by the horn buttons.. but maybe the wheel in all leather

Well I have that 91 Wheel you can use. Want to trade for a down in one window kit ?

aafc 07-21-2015 09:21 PM

Re: Steering wheel
 
well how about a custom made steering wheel to replace the stock air bag
90 wheel?
John
white/black 1990
one of a few auto (4l80E )ZR-1's


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php...pictureid=2845

GOLDCYLON 07-21-2015 09:27 PM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aafc (Post 229525)
well how about a custom made steering wheel to replace the stock air bag
90 wheel?
John
white/black 1990
one of a few auto (4l80E )ZR-1's


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php...pictureid=2845

Wow all race

XfireZ51 07-21-2015 09:34 PM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aafc (Post 229525)
well how about a custom made steering wheel to replace the stock air bag
90 wheel?
John
white/black 1990
one of a few auto (4l80E )ZR-1's


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php...pictureid=2845

Clearly not meant for a car that goes around corners.

XfireZ51 07-21-2015 09:39 PM

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http://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corv...234d7373d5.jpg

-=Jeff=- 07-21-2015 10:55 PM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 229515)
Well I have that 91 Wheel you can use. Want to trade for a down in one window kit ?

Hmm.. my bag will not mount in it though.. that is the crappy part about 1990.. 1 year only

GOLDCYLON 07-22-2015 08:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 229501)
Love the idea of a HUD. Can u believe people spent good money "chroming" those horrible POS wheels.


I would pay for a C4 HUD that worked better than those dash units that reflect onto a piece of film. I wish we had a SME that could build a working HUD POD for our car.

As to Chroming Waggon Wheels. Yikes

GOLDCYLON 07-22-2015 08:24 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 229534)
Hmm.. my bag will not mount in it though.. that is the crappy part about 1990.. 1 year only

I think it will. The only differece was the hole slot. Everything else remains the same

GOLDCYLON 07-22-2015 08:25 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 229530)


Like it. And the D works as it has a smaller Air bag hub. :cheers:

GOLDCYLON 07-22-2015 08:29 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 229529)
Clearly not meant for a car that goes around corners.


Well Michael Knight was able to handle it in KITT

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2554/aut0234zo5.jpg

http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/...jpg?1372774830

-=Jeff=- 07-22-2015 09:33 AM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 229551)
I think it will. The only differece was the hole slot. Everything else remains the same

I bumped my other post to get input on the 90 vs 91 airbag fit

I am still going to build a morphed 87-90 column, whether I use it or not is still up for debate in my head.. but I will end up with a complete set of parts for the 90 at least

Z51JEFF 07-23-2015 10:09 PM

Re: Steering wheel
 
I had an NOS 86-89 wheel that I wanted to put in my car along with a telescoping column and everybody pretty much told me the some thing,I wasn't too smart for taking out the airbag. One thing to think about,in a 91 the car won't start with the airbag fuse removed so 90 might be the same. Personally I wouldn't hesitate to remove the airbag if that's what I wanted to do.

-=Jeff=- 07-23-2015 11:55 PM

Re: Steering wheel
 
Yeah I know how to bypass the no start.. easy enough

As for the Steering wheel swap, I am still working on the column..


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