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ZR-1 05-01-2015 04:14 PM

Tuning
 
I ordered the apu1 tuning kit through moates.net and when I went to pull my memcal today it says z-ind race program. Is it still ok to piggyback this chip with the g1 adapter?

XfireZ51 05-01-2015 06:04 PM

Re: Tuning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZR-1 (Post 224879)
I ordered the apu1 tuning kit through moates.net and when I went to pull my memcal today it says z-ind race program. Is it still ok to piggyback this chip with the g1 adapter?


Yes. But you'll need a calibration for the APU to run the motor with. So you should read the cal off the Z-IND prom and download it into the APU for emulation. You'll use the APU to read the cal but in order to do that you need header pins to insert into the prom and then place it into the APU. Also need TProRT

ZR-1 05-01-2015 06:06 PM

Re: Tuning
 
Great. This tunerpro/obd1 tuning stuff is much different than the obd2 plug and play stuff im used to.. I'm now trying to figure out the bin and definition files. Any input on that? 90 zr-1 1228331 auah

ZR-1 05-01-2015 06:10 PM

Re: Tuning
 
I guess I need an explanation on specifically how to get started. I know how to tune, just no instructions really on how to get everything ready I suppose.

XfireZ51 05-01-2015 06:29 PM

Re: Tuning
 
Pick up the $8E and $8EA definition file. Need make sure ur using the right mask. Load the bin file into TP, then the Mask, then read the either the
Injector # or cylinder volume. Injectors should be 22.8 and the cylinder volume is.71. Don't save bin using wrong mask.

ZR-1 05-01-2015 06:44 PM

Re: Tuning
 
I guess my problem is finding the auah bin? The 8ea is almost impossible to find. I found it on a gear head website but had to register to download it. That was 3 days ago and still no confirmation email.

XfireZ51 05-01-2015 06:46 PM

Re: Tuning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZR-1 (Post 224888)
I guess my problem is finding the auah bin? The 8ea is almost impossible to find. I found it on a gear head website but had to register to download it. That was 3 days ago and still no confirmation email.

PM me ur email. I'll send you the mask and bin file. =Jeff= has it also.

ZR-1 05-01-2015 07:56 PM

Re: Tuning
 
PM sent. Again, the help is much appreciated!

-=Jeff=- 05-01-2015 11:07 PM

Re: Tuning
 
Sent you a PM as well.. You PM'ed me on gear head but I did not get to reply.. you should have access to stuff there though

Anyway.. Where in Illinois are you?

HAWAIIZR-1 05-01-2015 11:14 PM

Re: Tuning
 
Hey Guys,

I can't wait to learn this stuff myself one day. It sounds like a foreign language, but I know this is key to getting individual cars running just right. This would be an awesome workshop to have at the Gathering one day. "Tuning 101"

Aloha,

Craig

XfireZ51 05-02-2015 09:13 AM

Re: Tuning
 
Jeff,

I've looked at the auah bin w both 8E and 8EA. The correct mask is EA. Would you send me your .xdfs and bin files for the 90? Which is the broadcast code for the $8E bin?

-=Jeff=- 05-02-2015 09:31 AM

Re: Tuning
 
Yeah I can.. need to find where I moved them to.

ZR-1 05-02-2015 11:43 AM

Re: Tuning
 
I'm still not able to get download from the gearheads website. Says I need to verify but I never received the email for it..

Anyway, there are 3 things that show up in tunerpro rt that I was trying to clarify. adx, xdf, and bin.

Is it possible to grab the tune from the z-industries chip I have?

XfireZ51 05-02-2015 01:11 PM

Re: Tuning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZR-1 (Post 224917)
I'm still not able to get download from the gearheads website. Says I need to verify but I never received the email for it..

Anyway, there are 3 things that show up in tunerpro rt that I was trying to clarify. adx, xdf, and bin.

Is it possible to grab the tune from the z-industries chip I have?

Yes using the APU BUT you need a 28 pin header like this to read it into the APU and then save for TPRT.
The bin is the binary file, the .xdf is the definition file, and the adx is the ALDL datastream

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...pszbigjapg.jpg

ZR-1 05-02-2015 06:28 PM

Re: Tuning
 
Thank you. Much appreciated. Will see how far I can get with it this week.

-=Jeff=- 05-03-2015 10:32 AM

Re: Tuning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZR-1 (Post 224917)
I'm still not able to get download from the gearheads website. Says I need to verify but I never received the email for it..

Anyway, there are 3 things that show up in tunerpro rt that I was trying to clarify. adx, xdf, and bin.

Is it possible to grab the tune from the z-industries chip I have?


BIN - file stored in the MEMCAL.. gives your car a brain for the ECM
XDF - definition file so you can make sense of the BIN
ADX - used to capture data through your ALDL link.

if you use android there is a nice datalogger ALDLDroid) works great with my 90 Z

ZR-1 05-03-2015 11:31 AM

Re: Tuning
 
I'll be using a laptop but do have a tablet as well..
Is there a program that helps to tune the tables available for obd1?
I was looking at the flash n burn program and it asks for addressing. Not sure why I didn't get any instructions with this program.

ZR-1 05-04-2015 12:14 AM

Re: Tuning
 
I was able to make the adapter to copy the z-industries chip. I used both 8e adx and 8e xdf to read and write the chip. I appreciate all of the help guys!

-=Jeff=- 05-04-2015 08:11 AM

Re: Tuning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZR-1 (Post 224991)
Is there a program that helps to tune the tables available for obd1?

Tune which tables?

What exactly do you mean by 'helps'?

ZR-1 05-04-2015 10:37 AM

Re: Tuning
 
I suppose the ve tables. I've used a program before on obd2 that made calculations and adjustments while I drove. It was a breeze.

-=Jeff=- 05-04-2015 11:17 AM

Re: Tuning
 
I have not seen an on the fly version for OBD1. Although I think it could be done but will be challenging..

I created a program to do it, but not on the fly.. What are you using for datalogging?

XfireZ51 05-04-2015 01:32 PM

Re: Tuning
 
EBL does on the fly tuning BUT it's not compatible w our ECMs.


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