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LantanaTX 04-27-2014 09:17 PM

R134 A/C conversion
 
Does anyone know where the orifice is? I realize I can just put the R134 in but changing the orifice to a variable results in colder air. Usually there is some dimpling in one of the pipes near a union which holds the orifice but I am not finding it on this car.

WVZR-1 04-27-2014 09:36 PM

Re: R134 A/C conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LantanaTX (Post 201852)
Does anyone know where the orifice is? I realize I can just put the R134 in but changing the orifice to a variable results in colder air. Usually there is some dimpling in one of the pipes near a union which holds the orifice but I am not finding it on this car.

Drops in the evaporator tube.

LantanaTX 04-27-2014 09:38 PM

Re: R134 A/C conversion
 
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1 (Post 201853)
Drops in the evaporator tube.

Great thank you!

WVZR-1 04-27-2014 09:41 PM

Re: R134 A/C conversion
 
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Originally Posted by LantanaTX (Post 201854)
Great thank you!

You should see the crimp in the tube. Those connections can be difficult to unthread.

The crimp can be seen here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-Evaporato...d0ba3b&vxp=mtr

Schrade 04-27-2014 10:11 PM

Re: R134 A/C conversion
 
I converted an '87 to 134 without changing any hardware, except an adapter fitting, that I remember.

I did do the conversion flush a couple extra times, and vented it ( just to see how much was left, of course ;) ), and had no problems thereafter.

LantanaTX 04-27-2014 10:53 PM

Re: R134 A/C conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Schrade (Post 201859)
I converted an '87 to 134 without changing any hardware, except an adapter fitting, that I remember.

I did do the conversion flush a couple extra times, and vented it ( just to see how much was left, of course ;) ), and had no problems thereafter.

I did the same the first time I converted one, but it never got quite as cold and then I learned about changing the orifice and then freezing cold.

LantanaTX 04-27-2014 10:55 PM

Re: R134 A/C conversion
 
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1 (Post 201855)
You should see the crimp in the tube. Those connections can be difficult to unthread.

The crimp can be seen here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-Evaporato...d0ba3b&vxp=mtr

Thank you, I must have missed it. Just couldn't see the crimp. They are usually at the evaporator or the filter dryer.

scottfab 04-28-2014 11:32 AM

Re: R134 A/C conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LantanaTX (Post 201852)
Does anyone know where the orifice is? I realize I can just put the R134 in but changing the orifice to a variable results in colder air. Usually there is some dimpling in one of the pipes near a union which holds the orifice but I am not finding it on this car.

chances are you're going to introduce some moisture to the system when you put the new orifice in I would suggest changing the dryer while you're in there. they are surprisingly cheap

LantanaTX 04-28-2014 12:03 PM

Re: R134 A/C conversion
 
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Originally Posted by scottfab (Post 201898)
chances are you're going to introduce some moisture to the system when you put the new orifice in I would suggest changing the dryer while you're in there. they are surprisingly cheap

Never had to replace a dryer before when doing this, but the system must be evacuated before charging.

GOLDCYLON 04-28-2014 01:31 PM

Re: R134 A/C conversion
 
Its always recommended to change out the receiver driver before doing the conversion. Your going to have to recharge the system anyway.

scottfab 04-28-2014 04:25 PM

Re: R134 A/C conversion
 
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Originally Posted by LantanaTX (Post 201904)
Never had to replace a dryer before when doing this, but the system must be evacuated before charging.

Actually you can even forgo the evacuation (coming from multiple experts, shops and my own experience) if the system has not been left open long, especially if a new dryer is installed. It takes out moisture.
It's like turning the rotors for a good brake job.
You don't have to, and you may get away without doing it a time or two
but a good brake job says, yah, ya need to.

PS all this applies if you simply adding R134a to an existing R134a system. If you're converting from R12, oh boy. A completely different animal. Been there done that.

Kevin 04-28-2014 04:31 PM

Re: R134 A/C conversion
 
just converted mine last year...of course my compressor locked up so....


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