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Pumpman 12-18-2013 05:47 PM

Any Tire Recomendations
 
Tires on my recent purchase are 9-10 years old about 1/2 tread left. Not using car on Drag strip just Summer weather cruising around town. Will need to replace soon. Can I get some recommendations? I see prices all over the map.

-=Jeff=- 12-18-2013 05:59 PM

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I am very happy with my Michelin Pilot Sports

Pumpman 12-18-2013 06:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 190888)
I am very happy with my Michelin Pilot Sports

Jeff,
Are your tires P275/40ZR17 and P-315/35ZR17? If so the Michelin site say they are not available any more.

-=Jeff=- 12-18-2013 06:23 PM

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Actually they are 18s

Do they have PS2?

If not I think Nitto still has the 555 which also is a nice tire I had those on my 89

DaveK 12-18-2013 07:20 PM

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I have 17" PS2s, the rears are 335.

Dave

XfireZ51 12-18-2013 08:10 PM

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Nitto Invos

rhipsher 12-18-2013 11:07 PM

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If PS2's and Nittos are better than Vredisteins ultrac then prove it. Because Vreds have blown all those tire rack possers away and only cost $845 shipped. Y rated for 186mph and 280 AA/A which is the highest traction you can get. I get tired of hearing the plugs for Nittos and Sport pilots without any mention of the tire that is their fiercest competition for far less. The price on them has been going up steadily since their introduction and won't be cheap forever but they are more than worth mentioning while they are half the price of the tire rack darlings.

Kevin 12-18-2013 11:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rhipsher (Post 190908)
If PS2's and Nittos are better than Vredisteins ultrac then prove it. Because Vreds have blown all those tire rack possers away and only cost $845 shipped. Y rated for 186mph and 280 AA/A which is the highest traction you can get. I get tired of hearing the plugs for Nittos and Sport pilots without any mention of the tire that is their fiercest competition for far less. The price on them has been going up steadily since their introduction and won't be cheap forever but they are more than worth mentioning while they are half the price of the tire rack darlings.

i'll be happy to try them out next year if someone wants to send me a set of 4

-=Jeff=- 12-18-2013 11:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rhipsher (Post 190908)
If PS2's and Nittos are better than Vredisteins ultrac then prove it. Because Vreds have blown all those tire rack possers away and only cost $845 shipped. Y rated for 186mph and 280 AA/A which is the highest traction you can get. I get tired of hearing the plugs for Nittos and Sport pilots without any mention of the tire that is their fiercest competition for far less. The price on them has been going up steadily since their introduction and won't be cheap forever but they are more than worth mentioning while they are half the price of the tire rack darlings.

I have never used Vredisteins, So I could not comment on those.. I commented on what I have used in the past and current

I paid around $900 for the Nittos.. but that was back in 2004 I think

I paid $500 for my Michelin Pilot Sports (they had less then 3K miles on them)

My pilot sports are 275/35 and 335/30 both 18s, yes I got a killer deal

rhipsher 12-18-2013 11:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 190909)
i'll be happy to try them out next year if someone wants to send me a set of 4

Well Kevin you know I'm not a new comer to this site. And I've had many different tires on the Z. So If I say they are very impressive tires you should probably pay attention. Sorry but you will have to foot the bill for them yourself. I don't plug for them for the way they look. It's for the way they handle and grip. Also for the way they perform at top speed with our cars most of which don't even reach the speeds these tires are made for anyway. PS2's and Nittos are top tires. But so are Vreds. So if getting the most for your money matters to you then I highly suggest them. I've personally tested them and put my life in their hands more than once and made it home for dinner. I don't spend twice as much on a tire of the same performance just because 5 dudes with ZR-1's I know have them. Especially when those 5 dudes have never even taken their precious ZR-1's above 110mph or drifted in them with complete control. I'm just saying. It's your decision. I'm just giving you more options.

USAZR1 12-18-2013 11:39 PM

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I'm very interested in finding out more on the Vreds. Can you post a link for specs,sizing,and pricing?

edram454 12-19-2013 01:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rhipsher (Post 190908)
If PS2's and Nittos are better than Vredisteins ultrac then prove it. Because Vreds have blown all those tire rack possers away and only cost $845 shipped. Y rated for 186mph and 280 AA/A which is the highest traction you can get. I get tired of hearing the plugs for Nittos and Sport pilots without any mention of the tire that is their fiercest competition for far less. The price on them has been going up steadily since their introduction and won't be cheap forever but they are more than worth mentioning while they are half the price of the tire rack darlings.

Best tire and best deal available. I have bought 3 sets of these and they are wonderful. Y rated, great wet weather and overall weather tire. wont break the bank and look great. No other tire compares expecially its price point. edramos #3028

XfireZ51 12-19-2013 08:28 AM

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I was looking for the Vreds because they looked like a great bargain. Unfortunately, at the time, they didn't make any sizes to fit my 18/19" Z06 wheels. Can't comment on them. I do find the Invos to be very good in both wet and dry, and even tho they're not DRs, they do a nice job on the drag strip.

We Gone 12-19-2013 08:40 AM

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I also ran a set of Vredisteins for a few years very good ride & handling, well balanced tire two took less than 1/2oz weights. The only down side is they are not as wide as say GS-3s by about an inch. I still have mine just took them off this year with 15k miles on them still have 50% tread left.

The only reason I took them off was I got a great deal on some GS-3s. If I can find a set of wheels I will use them for winter driving. Here is a rear view of both.

http://imageshack.us/a/img842/2449/1w9k.jpg

XfireZ51 12-19-2013 08:55 AM

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Steve,

What a great photo! Very cool.

Dynomite 12-19-2013 09:02 AM

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Tires

Tires and Other Modifications

Discount Tire

FRONT.................................................. ....................REAR
Nitto NT 555 Extreme Performance..................................Nitto NT 555R Drag Radial
P275/40ZR-17 98W.................................................. ...315/35R-17 102V B
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...NittoNT555.jpg.................................................http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...ittoNT555R.jpg

1. Total for ALL four tires (two FRONT and two REAR) $704 with free shipping.
2. Tires arrived 3 days after ordered from Discount Tire
3. Took new tires and rims with old tires to local Discount Tire.
4. Discount Tire removed old tires and installed new tires on rims (Left and Right).
5. Cost to install two front and two rear new tires including balancing was $15 each tire.
6. Confirmed tire balance at 120 mph with zero vibration at any speed 0 - 120 mph.
7. Absolutely the best balanced tires I have ever had.

8. Tires (some helpful hints from Marc Haibeck)
a. There are four or more brands available for the ZR-1. Sumitomo, Kumho, Nitto, Vredestein, etc.
b. Sumitomo's may flat spot when cold because there is one nylon cord. They will thump for about the first five miles when cold.
c. Kumho's racing tires are excellent.
d. The Nitto NT 555 provides 95% of the performance of the Goodyear D3 at about 60% of the price. The soft thread on the NT 555R wears out in about 20k miles.
e. The Tire Rack does not sell Nitto. Discount Tire has them Discount Tire.
f. AFS Wheels sells Vredestein tires Vredestein. AFS Wheels are the same as "Cleanin-out-the-garage" on Ebay. Cleanin-out-the-garage has Lots of information on Vredestein Sessanta tires on Ebay Vredestein Tires.

carmine 12-19-2013 09:33 AM

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Vredistein Ultrac great ride ,balance, handling and price

USAZR1 12-19-2013 11:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 190923)
I was looking for the Vreds because they looked like a great bargain. Unfortunately, at the time, they didn't make any sizes to fit my 18/19" Z06 wheels. Can't comment on them. I do find the Invos to be very good in both wet and dry, and even tho they're not DRs, they do a nice job on the drag strip.

I noticed that about the sizing,too. I'm running Invos on another vehicle and like them so that's the way I'll go. Would like to run 285/30/18 fronts and 335/30/18 rears,if possible.
Might even buy Ron's 19" CCW's and go that route.

No drag radials for me.

XfireZ51 12-19-2013 11:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by USAZR1 (Post 190944)
I noticed that about the sizing,too. I'm running Invos on another vehicle and like them so that's the way I'll go. Would like to run 285/30/18 fronts and 335/30/18 rears,if possible.
Might even buy Ron's 19" CCW's and go that route.

No drag radials for me.

I have the Z06 sizes on my wheels. Altho the Z06 guys will run a 345 on the rear and stock is a 325. As it is, I get a slight rub on the inner wheel well on the passenger rear wheel. It only happens on a severe, abrupt dip but I can smell rubber and can see the rub mark. Not so on the driver's side. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the C4 rear ends were not symmetrical. Passenger side rear is tucked in just a bit more than driver's. Guess I could go w a slightly thicker spacer for the passenger side.

Kevin 12-19-2013 12:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by We Gone (Post 190924)
I also ran a set of Vredisteins for a few years very good ride & handling, well balanced tire two took less than 1/2oz weights. The only down side is they are not as wide as say GS-3s by about an inch. I still have mine just took them off this year with 15k miles on them still have 50% tread left.

The only reason I took them off was I got a great deal on some GS-3s. If I can find a set of wheels I will use them for winter driving. Here is a rear view of both.

http://imageshack.us/a/img842/2449/1w9k.jpg

this right here is reason enough for me not to get them

Kevin 12-19-2013 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rhipsher (Post 190911)
Well Kevin you know I'm not a new comer to this site. And I've had many different tires on the Z. So If I say they are very impressive tires you should probably pay attention. Sorry but you will have to foot the bill for them yourself. I don't plug for them for the way they look. It's for the way they handle and grip. Also for the way they perform at top speed with our cars most of which don't even reach the speeds these tires are made for anyway. PS2's and Nittos are top tires. But so are Vreds. So if getting the most for your money matters to you then I highly suggest them. I've personally tested them and put my life in their hands more than once and made it home for dinner. I don't spend twice as much on a tire of the same performance just because 5 dudes with ZR-1's I know have them. Especially when those 5 dudes have never even taken their precious ZR-1's above 110mph or drifted in them with complete control. I'm just saying. It's your decision. I'm just giving you more options.

I've gone the cheap tire route in the past and i almost ended up selling a car because of it, not something I'm going to do again. I'm leery of running nittos but not sure I can come up with the money to buy the GSD3's or PS2's that I really want to run on the car. Now I'm reading that they're nearly an inch smaller then the gsd3's and that's just not something i'm willing to have on my car

tomcat 12-19-2013 01:17 PM

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Hello,
I have Pirelli P Zero's on my ZR1 285 in the front & 335 in the rear. Cars rides good handle great.

Manfred E.......... :saluting:
91 #906
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USAZR1 12-19-2013 04:40 PM

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If I have the extra funds when it comes to replacing the tires,Michelins will always be my first choice. However,I sure won't have a problem with Nittos,I don't think.

Is Bridgestone or Dunlop still offering a 315 or wider rear tire?
Any running the Nitto 345/25/19's?

Hib Halverson 12-19-2013 04:51 PM

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I really haven't worried about tires for a while because back in the 00s I ordered two sets of F1 Supercars while GY still made them in 315. I have the last set on the car but they'll last for awhile

But, my, how times have changed. None of the major tire companies offer a good ultraperformance radial in 315.

Looks like there are still good choices in 275/40ZR17s and 335/35ZR17s. Just curious...how tall is the 335/35 and what's the recommended rim width for it?

WARP TEN 12-19-2013 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcat (Post 190954)
Hello,
I have Pirelli P Zero's on my ZR1 285 in the front & 335 in the rear. Cars rides good handle great. Manfred E.......... :saluting: 91 #906 <

What Hib asked, and are there any known issues running the 335/35-17 tires with the stock rear wheels or body work? I have A-molds. --Bob

Vetman 12-19-2013 05:14 PM

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Michelins my choice by far. It is true Michelins no longer make 315's so I bought 335's. No body issues for me. They are slightly wider and minutely taller. I measured against my 315 I took off and looked to be about 3/8 in h taller. Speedometer
Lost 1 mph

DaveK 12-19-2013 06:40 PM

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Same here. No issues at all with the 335 PS2s.

Dave

USAZR1 12-19-2013 06:44 PM

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Recommended rim width for a 335/35/17 is 12"-13" but they seem to work fine on a 17x11". Diameter is right at 26" tall compared to 25.7" for a 315/35/17.

PhillipsLT5 12-19-2013 09:03 PM

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Dynomite recommendation of Nitto is great, but GY GSD3 has a higher speed rating if you are going mile or 1.5 racing

Racinfan83 12-19-2013 09:05 PM

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There is a set of Nitto 555's on mine. And they are junk. Literally. Only have 1/32" worn off the tread, and tires are 2011 mfr - but the sidewalls failed the "Road Force Balance" machine at my local Chevy dealer. Can't get Nitto to warranty them (long story in another thread here somewhere), and they won't balance. So if I have the $ this spring I will have to put something on mine so I can drive it over 60mph without shaking my fillings out. Probably look hard at those vred whatevers...;)
Just looked on E-Bay - they are $945 for the set now...

Dynomite 12-19-2013 09:18 PM

Nittos are NOT Junk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Racinfan83 (Post 191023)
There is a set of Nitto 555's on mine. And they are junk. ;)

Could be Rotors or any number of other issues and the question did not get resolved which wheel (wheels) were involved.

Have Nitto 555s and smooth as silk first time balanced at 130 mph :dancing

Some cannot get the LT5 running smooth either but then again we do not know the history of either your Nittos or those LT5s I mention :confused:

FRONT.................................................. ....................REAR
Nitto NT 555 Extreme Performance..................................Nitto NT 555R Drag Radial
P275/40ZR-17 98W.................................................. ...315/35R-17 102V B
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...NittoNT555.jpg.................................................http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...ittoNT555R.jpg

don't be so sure about blaming Nitto, do you really know what your prior owner did with the car

Kevin in next post is talking about Vredisteins

rhipsher 12-19-2013 09:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 190949)
this right here is reason enough for me not to get them

Gee I wonder what reason that would be? The Vreds are exactly 12 1/2 inches wide. That 3/4 overhang on each side of the 11" wide rim. I highly doubt that GS-3's are an inch wider than that. I'm going to put my machinist hat on. Lets do the math. 315/25.4mm=12.401 wide
335/25.4mm=13.188wide
Now I highly doubt that a Dunlap GS-3 made for an 11" wide rim measures 13.5 wide. That would make it wider than a 335 tire. I think it's more of an optical illusion than anything. But that's ok I get it if some people don't like the looks of them. It's a preference purely on cosmetics and zero on performance. I have a good ZR-1 friend on this forum that doesn't care for the Vreds either only because he thinks the tread is just so strange looking compared to his Nitto 555's or whatever they are. So while we were sipping some beers in his garage and looking at each others tires I just said hey man! I don't care if the tire tread is in the shape of a chicks boobs. If they perform with the best tires available and the tests prove that then it's good enough for me. The first set I bought I completely destroyed them in one year. Not to mention I needed a complete suspension rebuild which I completed.http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...rsuspen010.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...fschool026.jpg

So I ordered a second set. And have chilled out.
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...fschool025.jpg

They are not cheap tires in any way.

USAZR1 12-19-2013 10:00 PM

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I really like those tires,rhip.

We Gone 12-19-2013 10:14 PM

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First I have no issues with the Verds they are great tires, I think the difference is the tread patch not sectional width.

Verds vs DSG3 both 315s

http://imageshack.us/a/img547/8287/0b9t.jpg

rhipsher 12-19-2013 10:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by We Gone (Post 191034)
First I have no issues with the Verds they are great tires, I think the difference is the tread patch not sectional width.

Verds vs DSG3 both 315s

http://imageshack.us/a/img547/8287/0b9t.jpg

The DSG -3 have always had a sharper more square corner which gives the illusion that they are wider that's all. Both great tires. I've had them both. Just comes down to tread pattern for some. The first set I paid $745 a set shipped. The second set I paid $845 shipped. Now I see they are heading north of $947 a set. And this is from the same seller. So I'm sure they are not going to be the great bargain much longer but they are still well under the $1,200 mark.

Racinfan83 12-20-2013 07:05 AM

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Quote:

Could be Rotors or any number of other issues and the question did not get resolved which wheel (wheels) were involved.

Have Nitto 555s and smooth as silk first time balanced at 130 mph

Some cannot get the LT5 running smooth either but then again we do not know the history of either your Nittos or those LT5s I mention
I greatly value your opinions and expertise on this forum.
But I had the car at Marc's in September - shook like crazy going up and shook the same coming back after he worked his magic on the LT5. The TIRES FAILED the "Road Force Balance" the Chevy dealer did on them due to "bad sidewalls". I have checked and re-checked other parts of the car that could cause vibration and found nothing. So I have no reason to believe that anything is wrong other then the tires. And the kicker was the whole runaround that I and my local tire dealer here got from the tech guy at Nitto - was going to warranty them so dealer ordered the tires and had 2 of em on the car - then reneged and said they wouldn't warranty them. SO from my experience I have no faith in Nitto - and I have a set of tires that won't balance and I'm stuck until I can come up with a grand to buy new ones...

Dynomite 12-20-2013 07:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Racinfan83 (Post 191055)
I greatly value your opinions and expertise on this forum.
But I had the car at Marc's in September - shook like crazy going up and shook the same coming back after he worked his magic on the LT5. The TIRES FAILED the "Road Force Balance" the Chevy dealer did on them due to "bad sidewalls". I have checked and re-checked other parts of the car that could cause vibration and found nothing. So I have no reason to believe that anything is wrong other then the tires. And the kicker was the whole runaround that I and my local tire dealer here got from the tech guy at Nitto - was going to warranty them so dealer ordered the tires and had 2 of em on the car - then reneged and said they wouldn't warranty them. SO from my experience I have no faith in Nitto - and I have a set of tires that won't balance and I'm stuck until I can come up with a grand to buy new ones...

OK.......I am assuming (maybe incorrectly) you bought the car that way (poor tire balance).

I just went through trying to balance front tires after moving wheel weights around to clear C5 Z06 brakes on a 90'. It was NOT easy but finally got job done (not Nittos). It took a lot of wheel weights on the inside and finally outside of A-Molds.

It would be interesting to have someone near by with a Z switch tires with you and isolate which wheel/tire is the culprit or otherwise isolate the issue.

I do know that running a Z with wheel imbalance is NO fun especially on curves/cornering where it shows up the most. The width of the front wheels makes tire balancing even more difficult on a Z. And.....most difficult when you want ALL wheel weights hidden.

Let us know the outcome in your previous thread regarding your specific issue.

edram454 12-20-2013 08:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Racinfan83 (Post 191023)
There is a set of Nitto 555's on mine. And they are junk. Literally. Only have 1/32" worn off the tread, and tires are 2011 mfr - but the sidewalls failed the "Road Force Balance" machine at my local Chevy dealer. Can't get Nitto to warranty them (long story in another thread here somewhere), and they won't balance. So if I have the $ this spring I will have to put something on mine so I can drive it over 60mph without shaking my fillings out. Probably look hard at those vred whatevers...;)
Just looked on E-Bay - they are $945 for the set now...

dont shy away from the vredestins. they are great tires. they are not cheaply made. get them while they are priced well. I am sure they will continue to increase in price until they match the expensive tires. they kick butt in every test against those other super tires. once you buy them you wont buy anything else. good luck. #3028

Racinfan83 12-20-2013 09:41 AM

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Dyno - correct assumption. They were that way when I got it. One of those things where I thought I could just go get em balanced and all would be well. (See what I get fer thinkin) Car is put up now til it warms up and all the salt is gone so I will tackle it again this spring... Thanks for all your help!
And yes I like what I see on the Vreds......

FU 12-20-2013 02:54 PM

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What did I do ? Get the last set of Mich. 285 & 335 17's made? I got them in July...... Shame they are great tires !

They have a little trouble holding the car down , just a little @ 130 mph.


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